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Old 06-09-2007, 11:58 AM   #21
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I had a poster ask me on another what evidence I had that the account of Adam and Eve was in the original text of Genesis.
Why does this person think it matters? The name 'Genesis' is taken from the first word of the book, so what this person probably means is that Genesis was written using different sources, which idea few scholars disagree upon. It is possible that the several story myths of Genesis 1-11:9 were written after the events portrayed in Genesis 12-50, but added quite sensibly as a prologue to the historical narration. Some people think they were written before Abram lived, though I'm not sure who could or would have done so.
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FULL DISCLOSURE: I received a degree from the Pensacola Theological Seminary and the position of the seminary is decidedly against the documentary hypothesis.
Do you still believe their position?
Yes.
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Message to ksen: Is it your position that God originally inspired the writing of the Bible in his own words, and that the copies that we have today are the same as the originals except for scribal and copyist errors? If so, what evidence do you have that such is the case? What would have prevented some people from changing or adding to the originals?
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Yes.
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Why?
Jesus attributes authorship to Moses. Who am I to secondguess Him?

Can I be wrong about this? I'm sure I could but it would take some extraordinary evidence to shake me of this belief.

Does this mean that I've removed myself from the table of being able to discuss the issue? I'm sure to some I have.

Why do you believe it? (If you do.)
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Message to ksen: Is it your position that God originally inspired the writing of the Bible in his own words, and that the copies that we have today are the same as the originals except for scribal and copyist errors? If so, what evidence do you have that such is the case? What would have prevented some people from changing or adding to the originals?
It's my position that you only use the Bible when it is convenient for you to do so.

When it is not convenient you throw up silly arguments like the above.
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:19 AM   #27
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Jesus attributes authorship to Moses. Who am I to secondguess Him?
Does he really? Or is it merely a common phrase to use?

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Can I be wrong about this? I'm sure I could but it would take some extraordinary evidence to shake me of this belief.
Why extraordinary evidence for such a belief built upon sand anyway?

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Does this mean that I've removed myself from the table of being able to discuss the issue? I'm sure to some I have.
Quite right. Mosaic authorship is about as logical as God himself using throwing lightning bolts at us mortals.

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Why do you believe it? (If you do.)
I don't. I find the position absurd.
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Jesus attributes authorship to Moses.
What makes you certain that the gospel authors correctly reported his belief on that matter?
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Message to ksen: Is it your position that God originally inspired the writing of the Bible in his own words, and that the copies that we have today are the same as the originals except for scribal and copyist errors? If so, what evidence do you have that such is the case? What would have prevented some people from changing or adding to the originals?
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It's my position that you only use the Bible when it is convenient for you to do so.

When it is not convenient you throw up silly arguments like the above.
Every time that I make a post asking you to back up your claim that the Bible is inerrant, you evasively change the subject to what I do. What if some other skeptic asked you to defend inerrancy? Would you then be willing to defend inerrancy? You obviously know that you are not adequately prepared to defend inerrancy. Why don't you admit it?
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Jesus attributes authorship to Moses. Who am I to secondguess Him?
Does he really? Or is it merely a common phrase to use?
Mark 12:19, 26
Luke 20:28
John 1:17, 45
John 5:45-46

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Why extraordinary evidence for such a belief built upon sand anyway?
I disagree that it is built on sand. :huh:

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Quite right. Mosaic authorship is about as logical as God himself using throwing lightning bolts at us mortals.
It's only illogical to those who have already decided that Moses couldn't have been the author.

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Why do you believe it? (If you do.)
I don't. I find the position absurd.
You find the documentary hypothesis absurd? I thought that was the hypothesis you were advocating? Then what is your position? :huh:
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