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Old 01-16-2013, 09:10 AM   #81
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The “Paul” of Romans could not read Hebrew. The “Paul” of Romans got his material from the LXX. The LXX was his bible. The “Paul” of Romans was unaware of any differences between the Hebrew and Greek translations.
And we are to supposed believe that it is impossible that the Church 'corrected' Paul's writings so as to conform them to the Gentile's traditional readings of these LXX texts?

A little personal account here, about 35 years ago I wrote a quite detailed religious essay and passed it on to some of my Christian acquaintances, three days latter it came back to me with virtually every name I had written whited out and replaced with popular Greek names.
Having experienced that, I can well understand exactly what Paul was up against. And his writings are still up against.

Paul was a JEW, of the Nation of Israel, of the Tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews, a Pharisee brought up at the feet of Gamaliel, taught according to the strictest manner of The Law of the Fathers. (Acts 21:9, 22:3, 26:5, Rom. 11:1, Phil 3:5)

Paul knew, understood, and could speak HEBREW fluently. (Act 21:40, 22:2, 26:14)

Paul was a HEBREW and a JEW, or you are calling him a liar. And if Paul was or is a liar, then you cannot say anything at all concerning him that might be trusted as being true.

Paul TELLS us over and over what he is. And still people insist on trying to misrepresent Paul the highly educated JEWISH HEBREW as being a stupid, unlearned, and ignorant gentile.
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For a wider and more comprehensive discussion of Gen 15:6
google: "Was Gen 15:6 mistranslated"
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google: "Was Gen 15:6 mistranslated"
'to google'; to scavenge, to scour dustbins for scraps, to admit indigence.

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google: "Was Gen 15:6 mistranslated"
'to google'; to scavenge, to scour dustbins for scraps, to admit indigence.

Oh, that is so funny!
Just use the search engine of your choice.
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For a wider and more comprehensive discussion of Gen 15:6
google: "Was Gen 15:6 mistranslated"
'to google'; to scavenge, to scour dustbins for scraps, to admit indigence.

Oh, that is so funny!
Just use the search engine of your choice.
I don't think it's down to search engine as much as it's down to that which is searched. One may 'bing', or 'yahoo!' all the night long, but still catch only flotsam and jetsam.

Putting it at its most polite.
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Well, this discussion is showing up on the search engines, so many more will have the opportunity to think about it. Romans 4:3 is on a shakey foundation.
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Well, this discussion is showing up on the search engines, so many more will have the opportunity to think about it.
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Oh, that is so funny!
Just use the search engine of your choice.
I don't think it's down to search engine as much as it's down to that which is searched. One may 'bing', or 'yahoo!' all the night long, but still catch only flotsam and jetsam.

Putting it at its most polite.
I don't understand the search engine remarks you make. The whole point to this forum is to have a rational discussion about the various topics.

As far as I can tell, your contributions are obtuse at best which makes any kind of rational discussion difficult. But having said that, why interfere with people who are interested in learning.
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How am I interfering with people who are learning? I am simply suggesting that some very pivitol verses may have been mistranslated just as Ramban also asserted.
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Onias - I think that comment was directed at sotto voce, not you.
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