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Old 12-04-2007, 06:05 PM   #31
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Don't do that. The bible is personal to a large number of people, and by treating it specifically in a way they disapprove of, you antagonise people before you start.
I appreciate your concern and I am aware of the fact that many people do not like to have their favorite book looked at critically and without any consideration for their feelings toward it. However, the fact that this book is so important to so many people is exactly what makes it attractive to me.


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I hardly take the the opinion of someone who could give you a failing grade to be irrelevant.
I disagree with Roger, but unlike your attack, an undignified attack, I think that so long as the OP remains scholarly and neutral, he ought to incur no major wrath.
That I will certainly try to do. And I agree that my professor's opinion is relevant. I am an atheist and I believe in intellectual freedom and freedom of speech, but I'm certainly not going to risk failing this class when I can easily avoid it. But unless my professor turns out to be a Christian fundie (which I'm certain he isn't) or tells me he doesn't like my ideas for the paper, I should be fine.


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If certain belief systems, indistinguishable from fiction, as is the case of theism, hinder the non-believer's right to freedom of expression, is it then incumbant upon the rational to show "respect" for such beliefs?
I think not, as that dog will no longer hunt.
I agree with you, but I also think that if such a belief system is as prevalent in certain areas as Christianity is, it does make sense to consider potential consequences of what you say or do to criticize the beliefs of the majority -- not so much out of respect, but in the interest of self-preservation (in the literal as well as the figurative sense). I guess I would call it being cautious, rather than ''respectful''.
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If certain belief systems, indistinguishable from fiction, as is the case of theism, hinder the non-believer's right to freedom of expression, is it then incumbant upon the rational to show "respect" for such beliefs?
I think not, as that dog will no longer hunt.
I agree with you, but I also think that if such a belief system is as prevalent in certain areas as Christianity is, it does make sense to consider potential consequences of what you say or do to criticize the beliefs of the majority -- not so much out of respect, but in the interest of self-preservation (in the literal as well as the figurative sense). I guess I would call it being cautious, rather than ''respectful''.

Hehehe...I never said one should be stupid!

Best of luck in your endeavor.
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The theme is 'Law and Justice in Literature'
May I recommend "Life of Brian".
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:26 AM   #34
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To read a clear account of biblical fairness, justice and law that makes sense to us and that does not fill us with revulsion, please read 2 Queens 4:69. :angel:
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I disagree with Roger, but unlike your attack, an undignified attack, I think that so long as the OP remains scholarly and neutral, he ought to incur no major wrath.
Why risk it? If I wanted to be heard on some subject, I would try to ensure that I did not ensure in advance that my audience would not hear me.

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I disagree with Roger, but unlike your attack, an undignified attack, I think that so long as the OP remains scholarly and neutral, he ought to incur no major wrath.
I agree. Roger Pearse seems to insinuate that the bible should be off-limits, since some people hold it in reverence.
Not what I said, and not what the OP was about. The query seemed to be about a paper on law. If the object was to insult Christians, of course, go ahead. After all, it's safe enough, reasons the average scumbag.

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I agree. Roger Pearse seems to insinuate that the bible should be off-limits, since some people hold it in reverence.
Not what I said, and not what the OP was about. The query seemed to be about a paper on law. If the object was to insult Christians, of course, go ahead. After all, it's safe enough, reasons the average scumbag.

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Grow up, Roger.
If she said she was going to use the Koran or some other silly holy book you wouldn't have even batted an eye.

Not everybody still lives in a time warp of the year of our lord, just you.
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I agree. Roger Pearse seems to insinuate that the bible should be off-limits, since some people hold it in reverence.
Not what I said, and not what the OP was about. The query seemed to be about a paper on law. If the object was to insult Christians, of course, go ahead. After all, it's safe enough, reasons the average scumbag.

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If you don't like scholarly examination of the Bible, why are you even in this forum, Roger? Read the OP again: this is for a literature class at college. The only person who'll probably read it will be mrs. atticus' professor, who might be an atheist for all you know. The idea that it might offend Christians is completely irrelevant -- a paper about The Lord of the Rings might offend hobbit lovers: so what? You can't report the truth while walking on eggshells.
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