Mageth

Didn't we just have this conversation? The word used in the verse in question does not mean sphere. There's a word for ball in the OT Hebrew, BTW:

Isa 22:18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee [like] a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory [shall be] the shame of thy lord's house.

The word used there is duwr, I believe. Is a ball not a sphere, and more earth-shaped than a circle?

mark9950

The earth is similar to a ball and if God created it he would have known it himself.

Magus will never realize these facts until he is on his deathbed and realized where is God?

My grandmother and grandfather asked me this question oon their deathbed.

They said where is God and why is he doing this to me?

winstonjen

Ditto for you. We don't need arrogant beings who think they're absolutely right to rule over us.

winstonjen

Thank you for informing us that your god is incompetent.

Icky

Right. Which is why spirit-filled believers have never come to blows or started new sects. Because they all understand the true meaning of the Bible.

Doctor X

Apparently does not know the definition of "works."

--J.D.

Tickfast

Bible literalists that like modern science are fond of the verse where God hangs the earth on nothing...of course, they skip the rest of the verse where God 'Stretches the Earth over the void' and hangs it on nothing.
IF the Earth were understood to be a sphere, would it be described as stretched out or balled up?

God describes the creation of the Earth as spreading it out upon the surface of the waters.
Again, spread out is not the way to make speres.

The sun has a chamber where it goes at night. On a ROUND earth, the sun doesn't get the night off.

Daniel's tree is a vision, fine, but there is nothing in Jesus' trip to the mountain top to suggest it isn't a literal event. And from the mountain, they can see all the kingdoms of the earth... not possible on a flat earth.
If it is divine vision, then why bother to go to a mountain top in the first place?
They could use super x-ray god-vision to see all the nations, some from the underside.

In the verse of the 'circle of the earth' the sky is described as a tent, with the sides coming down like curtains. Is there any reason to think that the tent image is of a kind that the walls don't reach the floor?

Metaphor is a weak defense, really. Metaphors only have comparison powers between two LIKE Things.

If there were a verse that said 'the earth is as flat as a pancake,' it is a simile, but an inaccurate one. Calling it a metaphor does notchange the fact that unless we understand pancake to mean abelskivver, it's describing a flat earth.

brighid

Magus,

Could you please draw a sphere and then find it's four corners, then you will have the answer to your question. Good luck.

Brighid

Magus55

North South East and West. This is the dumbest argument EVER for a flat Earth. People say the four corners of the Earth in daily language. I just heard it on TV a few days ago. Ever heard the phrase, I would follow you to the ends of the Earth? Since when does the Earth have ends? Please come up with something better.

brighid

These are not CORNERS, these are directions. They are points on a sphere (or on a compass) but they are NOT corners. A sphere cannot have corners. Look at the room around you, notice the corners and the shape of the room ... then go and find a ball and tell me where the corners are. Where are the corners Magus?

Perhaps a refresher course in geometry would be helpful.

Brighid