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Old 09-23-2012, 12:55 AM   #161
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MonoYahwhistic Hebrew- A Gileadite Sentinel, requiring The 'SHIBBOLETH' of every soul that would venture to cross over that 'Jordan', and 'enter into The Promised Land'.
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"...and 'enter into The Promised Land'..."

Promised by whom? .....

If you really have interest to get to know by who was actually 'promise' the land of the Canaanites to the Jews, ethnicity NEVER existed before of the escape from Egypt of Moses, then you should think carefully about the content of the famous 'Steles of Merenptah', the pharaoh heir the famous Ramesses II ....


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It is evident that you have no idea of what the words in my profile signify.

No more than this;
ששבצר העברי

Which even if you manage to 'translate' it, you will remain ignorant of what it means, and its present significance.





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It is evident that you have no idea of what the words in my profile signify.

No more than this;

ששבצר העברי

Which even if you manage to 'translate' it, you will remain ignorant of what it means, and its present significance.
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Well, since it goes so, you just have to 'enlighten' us about its 'deep' meaning ....


(however, I was referring to " ארץ מובטחת " and not to your 'nick'...)



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They say that history repeats itself


SHIBBOLETH
Judges 12:6
They said, "All right, say 'Shibboleth.'" If he said, "Sibboleth," because he could not pronounce the word correctly, they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two thousand Ephraimites were killed at that time

Transubstantiation
UNAM SANCTAM Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
“Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.”
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Bon08/B8unam.htm


They said, "All right, say Transubstantiation. “ If he “said,” consubstantiation," because he could not drink the blood and eat the corpse, they seized him and killed him on the land of Europe. Millions of vegetarians, teetotal Europeans were killed to celebrate the coronation of the Roman Pontiff.
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They say that history repeats itself


SHIBBOLETH
Judges 12:6
They said, "All right, say 'Shibboleth.'" If he said, "Sibboleth," because he could not pronounce the word correctly, they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two thousand Ephraimites were killed at that time

Transubstantiation
UNAM SANCTAM Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
“Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.”
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Bon08/B8unam.htm


They said, "All right, say Transubstantiation. “ If he “said,” consubstantiation," because he could not drink the blood and eat the corpse, they seized him and killed him on the land of Europe. Millions of vegetarians, teetotal Europeans were killed to celebrate the coronation of the Roman Pontiff.
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"...we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff...."

Because of this 'ineluctable' truth, who knows how many billions of souls of pagans, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Shintoists, Taoists, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Gnostics, heretics, Manicheans, etcetera, etcetera, they 'languish' in the flames of hell! .. Blessed are the Catholics who believe in the Roman Pontiff, who, even if they have committed the most filthy, the most frightening, the most horrific crimes against their neighbor, they have ensured the salvation (sic!!) ....


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It is evident that you have no idea of what the words in my profile signify.

No more than this;

ששבצר העברי

Which even if you manage to 'translate' it, you will remain ignorant of what it means, and its present significance.
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Well, since it goes so, you just have to 'enlighten' us about its 'deep' meaning ....
That is not the manner of העברים nor of האלהינו .

Even if told, you would not understand, and if you understood you would not believe.

Thus it is nescessary, that in due time you see, -hear- and find out for yourself. The hard way.

Bye and bye, you most certainly will see, hear, and know.

It is what it is all about.

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For the sake of continuity of exhibition and by the benefit of those who follow with interest what I'm exposing for several years now, I decided to bring here also the message as below, already posted in the thread "History or Theology?"

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Is there a difference between theology and history in the first century according to the powers that be, re. "scholarship"? In Egyptology there is no argument concerning interpolations, harmonizations, euhemerizations, or plagarizations with regard to recieved documents. Why should there be about 2nd century Roman documents. Please educate me if you can about the difference in the two disciplines.
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There is no need to disturb the ancient Egypt to make such comparisons. We can take as an example the figures of Julius Caesar and of 'Yeshua bar Yuseph'.

The reason why there are not excessive suspicions about the genuineness of the information we have about Julius Caesar - on the contrary instead of what happens with the documentation concerning the historical figure of Jesus of Nazareth - depends on the mere fact that around Julius Caesar was NOT built a religion such as the one 'catho-christian', which forced the founders to upset not only historical evidences, but also the same course of historical events, involving in this hallucinating and vast operation of historical mystification, even many archaeological evidences! (think of Nazareth, Bethlehem, Capernaum, Qana, Magdala/Dalmanutha, Kefar Gamala/Bet Jemal, Lydda/Mount of Olives, etc.)


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I am a historian of Christianity and theologian (exegesis is my field of interest). My beliefs are private :-) As for the Church, I my ideas; are neither papist nor episcopalista: to well look Jesus did not founded any new church, or rather laid the foundations for a community that adores Abba; has been proved beyond doubt that at the time of Christ Adonay was worshiped with the epithet of 'Abba', ie Father. (cf Jeremias Abba).

Historical Jesus ... a good problem! I like the claims of Flusser in Jesus ... I will read the other contributions you signal me. For now I have to look after my health; eventually in due course I will write in detail ...

Thanks for having read. :-) See you soon

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"..has been proved beyond doubt that at the time of Christ Adonay was worshiped with the epithet of 'Abba', ie Father. (see Jeremias Abba)..."

This is a further evidence in favor of my reconstructions. I refer, to be exact, to Jeremias Abba, more likely Jeremias BAR ABBA. Surely Jeremiah belonged to the same community of those who, after him, became identified with the locution "Notzrim ha-Beryth" (*), ie 'Guardians or Custodians of the Alliance', in opposition to those who upset such an Alliance, or Mosaic law: that is to say the monotheistic reformers of Josiah and Helkya. Not surprisingly, Jeremiah informs us about the corruption of the old books (see Deuteronomy, or its NEW version, 'found' in the Holy of Holies of the Temple of Jerusalem)

Before this major historic event, that transformed the origins of Judaism - or 'mosaic' - essentially a polytheistic worship, in a rigid and intolerant monotheism, as all monotheisms recorded by history, the members of Nazarene community, namely the 'Notzrim ha-Beryth', were called 'Benai ABBA', ie' Sons of the Father ', where for Father you did not intend at all God, but an ancient patriarch of the Jewish history. This means that Jesus was NOT the only to be definied as a 'Bar-Abba' (see Origen, 'Iesoun Barabban'), but also ALL the Nazarenes and nasurei of John the Baptist: a Gnostic community flourished from the same Nazarene matrix.

In turn the 'nasurei', a gnostic-pythagorean sect (**) born about three centuries before the birth of Jesus, were also called the 'JUSTS', due to the fact that the main element on which was initially developed this gnostic palestinian sect, was represented by the mythical figure of ENOCH: the JUST who walked with God! .... According to Kabbalah (Jewish Gnosticism from which the community of nasurei 'mutuò' - got borrowed - various beliefs), Enoch was the repository of a saving TRUTH '' that was transferred him directly by God, by virtue of exemplary life that such a character (mythical or not) had conducted during his earthly life.

Even SETH, the third son of Adam and Eve, was considered depositary of such a saving truth. (Seth was also called the 'SON OF MAN', since in the Jewish culture of the time, Adam was considered the 'MAN' par excellence, sometimes symbolizing humanity itself)

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(*) - with the use and through the centuries, this term was reduced to the only term 'Notzrim', translated into Western languages by 'Nazarenes'

(**) - Pythagoreanism was certainly one of the most distinctive features of such a sect, but with the pythagorean elements, lived together also other gnostic elements of various origins and of different religions, such as the Egyptian Gnosticism, Orphic, Zoroastrian, Buddhist, etc... This is explained by the historical events of Palestine, subject, in the course of time, to various dominations, which led to a deep syncretism on the part of some of the Gnostic sects that developed in all of Palestine, but over all in Judea and Samaria.


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