Vinnie

Even if these numbers were significant (HUGE CHARITABLE PREMISE GRANT on my part consuidering all the changing parallels and categories and caluclations from palent to planet) the universe is so big what is the probability something like this woud happen? 1?

As the person says, laughibly:

""WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT THESE OCCUR BY COINCIDENCE? THE ODDS MUST BE BILLIONS TO ONE!"""

There are billions of stars in our galaxy alone and presumably billions of planets as well granted modern views on solar system formation. Not to mention billions of galaxies.

The poster himself shows his results to be very statistically insignificant. Not to mention billion to one occurances would happen in a universe with cachillions of processes going on that existed for billions of years.

Plus with all the changing categories its hard to view the numbers as significant to begin with. It looks worse than after-the-fact Biblice code probers. I still don't even "get it" myself, it was so bad.

Mercury is 38% the distance from the Sun to Earth and is 38% the Earth's circumference, therefore God exists? WTF???

Vinnie

godalmighty

Bodes is wrong, there are three doubling constants in the solar system not one.

6 planets use one doubling rule
6 planets use another
6 planets use yet another

Look 18 planets

Where are all the other planets?

Well PDF says three planets existed beyond pluto, NASA has found two bodies in orbits estimated by PDF, that fact validated the formula

Some of the other planets collided and formed the asteroid belt

Others colliided and formed the gas giants

So you have 9 planets left, 2 new bodies discovered where planets should of been and 1 new planet about to be discovered.

Pluto is similar to the 2 new bodies discovered

The point is PDF is the first complete model for the solar system that explains everything, planet positions, circumferences, the asteroid belt and the kuiper belt

The formula was released in 2002, it was given to NASA, within a year they found bodies where the formula estimated they would be found

PROOF it is the correct formula

adophis1984

godalmighty - everyone brainwashes themselves with their beliefs, and at a certain point, there is no changing their opinions. Just save your breath.

And no, this isn't a diss on atheists, just people in general want to believe what they want to believe. Can't do much to change that.

godalmighty

When the same ratio alignment is found over and over it is significant

The odds that any planet's circ. ratio be aligned to it's orbit ratio is 100 to 1

The Ratio Circ. is X and the orbit ratio is Y

Since the formula is to the 2nd decimal, the orbit ratio has a 1 in 100 chance of being aligned to the circ. ratio. Now since you can have two types of orbital alignment (either distance or orbit period) the true odds drop to 50 to 1 that a planet be ratio align between circ. and orbit

So the fact that it happened four times is 50^4 or 6.5 Million or so to 1

Now the fact that is happend in our own solar system and not one of the other billions of solar systems is what makes the probability more staggering

Out of all the solar systems this might have 'occurred' in by 'chance' it just happened to have occurred where we would find the connection and we just happen to be advanced enough to comprehend the fact that it happened and we have the technology to get the base information to even have the numbers to see the connection

And the numbers I used above are actually way smaller than the true odds, since one set of planets is aligned to .001 accuracy and the other is .005 so if you extend the formulas to the correct decimal place and runs probability you have 500*500*250*250 = 15.6 Billion to one

Anyway, since the formula shows alignment to .XX that would be significant that four planets would align in such a manner

However, when you know the alignments are actually .001 and .005 then that becomes a huge number, instead of it being 6 million to 1 probable it is 15.6 billion to 1 probable

Now in the future when a few people with PHD's behind their names verify the numbers are indeed what NASA measured and yes the odds of these planets being aligned is BILLIONS to 1 probable, well most on earth will say PDF is PROOF of design

Atheists bow to unproven theories like evolution, yet they deny proven mathematical formulas that hit with billions to 1 odds of hitting

Atheism will be a non-belief in a generation or two

Man has advanced scientifically enough so he could find the truth, man lives within a DESIGNED solar system

Vinnie

18 planets? I am only aware of 8 (Pluto is not a real planet). Its called so by sentimental atronomers who can't let go of the past.

Also, your theory is false in that it claims to explain planet positions. Do you realize how influentual choas was when we had a huge solar nebula that the planets and sun formed out of? An object 3 tims the size of mars hit the earth and later became our moon. Imagine the butterfly effect causing this object to just miss earth and then the sun catches it in its orbit. Presto, like magic, we have another planet all together.

How could any model even dream of calculating the positions of this planet, let alon all the planets, moons and so on? It seems theoretically flawed in that the butterfly effect makes it practically impossible.

Bode's law is just a "lucky guess" unless//until it can be shown to hold true for other solar systems or explained. I was using it in jest. It works well enough for quick calculations of a planets distance from the subn in astronomical units (1 au = 93 mil.miles which = average earth--sun distance) but again, I think the butterfly effect makes it theoretically unjustifiable. We should call it "Bode's Rule", not law and I think scientists recognize it as such.

Vinnie

godalmighty

Atheists dont have PROOF

Xtians don't have PROOF

Jews don't have PROOF

Muslims don't have PROOF

Yet, recently MAN has been given PROOF the solar system was DESIGNED

When a few eggheads seriously review the creator formula and they see the odds are many billions to 1 of this being chance, then most on this planet will be discussing THE PROOF of DESIGN, within a generation all religions will fade away as will atheists, what is left is MAN who knows the truth, his solar system was DESIGNED he was CREATED

Anyone that understands probability sees the simple truth in this theory, that is the planets are ratio aligned to earth

The alignment is either .001 or .005

The odds of four planets being aligned to within those accuracies is literally billions to 1 probable

So before PDF was discovered man had no proofs to beliefs, there were no proofs for atheists, jews, xtians, muslims or anyone

After PDF there is mathematical PROOF of design, the odds aganinst four planets being so perfectly aligned to earth is many billions to 1 probable

Vinnie

This is so not worth the effort or time...

<--- Signing off from this one...

Vinnie

godalmighty

Like I said, READ PDF, it puts forth an 18 planet model and it explains where all the missing planets went

If pluto was discovered today it would be like the two objects found last year by Nasa where PDF said they would be found, it would not be a full fledged planet, in fact PDF explains what pluto and the other objects recently found were, they were MOONS of planets that collided and formed the kuiper belt

Nasa two years ago when planets are found where PDF said, it would validate the theory, well guess what two objects were found where PDF said they should be

200 years ago there were how many planets in the solar system?

Guess what,the same amount of planets are still here, the only thing that changed was mans knowledge of planets beyond what he could see

Whereas Titius Bodes did not give exact locations, PDF does.

PDF is similar to TB

Only thing is PDF is perfectly aligned to real orbital measurements TB isn't

sourdough

designed by whom? :huh:

and if it was,then who designed the designer?

your argument reminds me of the 300 proofs for gods at
www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Humor.html

adophis1984

But godalmighty isn't making any claims about the designer. Just the universe and itself and how it must be designed.