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Old 11-20-2010, 12:17 AM   #71
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Godwithus, are you ever going to respond to my posts, or have you admitted defeat?

And reading scripture converted you, huh? So you read about YHWH allowing (or creating, to be more accurate) floods, hurricanes, earthquakes, malaria, influenza, cholera and small pox into the world, and slaughtering the entire human race in Genesis, save eight people, and about YHWH ordering the Hebrews to slaughter every man, woman and child in a couple of Canaanite cities in Joshua, and you said to yourself, Yeah, this all makes total sense. This is a god I gotta love!?


Hi! Hey could you read the Genesis story about why God destroyed the earth with a flood? Also read Deut. 2, and tell me what you get from that.
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Hi! Hey could you read the Genesis story about why God destroyed the earth with a flood?
. . . yes I have and that was an OT allegory that has been replaced by Advent in the NT wherein we must recognize the white candle as our very own baptism candle.
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In any case, the elephant in the room that I am referring to is Mark 9:1,
IMHO, this is not a prediction of some imminent future event by the author. Instead, it's a message to the readers that the kingdom, has already come to them. Mark is not a book about the future, it's a book containing messages contemporary to the author, but set in his past.

Jesus' description of the 'kingdom' is not the future theocracy assumed by modern Christians, it's a spiritual kingdom contemporary to Mark's audience. In Mark 4, we have...

The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables

...which is then followed immediately by none other than parables about the kingdom of god.
Makes sense.

"My kingdom is not of this world."
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IMHO, this is not a prediction of some imminent future event by the author. Instead, it's a message to the readers that the kingdom, has already come to them. Mark is not a book about the future, it's a book containing messages contemporary to the author, but set in his past.

Jesus' description of the 'kingdom' is not the future theocracy assumed by modern Christians, it's a spiritual kingdom contemporary to Mark's audience. In Mark 4, we have...

The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables

...which is then followed immediately by none other than parables about the kingdom of god.
Makes sense.

"My kingdom is not of this world."
What world was that? If you have a NON-WORLD kingdom. You have a mythical kingdom. No mystery--myth.
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Makes sense.

"My kingdom is not of this world."
What world was that? If you have a NON-WORLD kingdom. You have a mythical kingdom. No mystery--myth.

Israel is the Kingdom of God..as the Messiah will rule from that state, the whole world.
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Makes sense.

"My kingdom is not of this world."
What world was that? If you have a NON-WORLD kingdom. You have a mythical kingdom. No mystery--myth.
Right.
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What world was that? If you have a NON-WORLD kingdom. You have a mythical kingdom. No mystery--myth.

Israel is the Kingdom of God..as the Messiah will rule from that state, the whole world.
Wrong. Israel is a physical, political entity, very much in this world.
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Israel is the Kingdom of God..as the Messiah will rule from that state, the whole world.
Wrong. Israel is a physical, political entity, very much in this world.


Israel is destined to be the seat of the Messiah...when that happens Yeshua's kingdom will not only become of the world...it will be the world.

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The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever.
Rev. 11
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Wrong. Israel is a physical, political entity, very much in this world.
Israel is destined to be the seat of the Messiah...when that happens Yeshua's kingdom will not only become of the world...it will be the world.
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The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever.
Rev. 11
"My kingdom is not of this world."

Revelation or the Apocalypse is one long, angry, hallucination directed at Rome. Where's the Beast? Where's the Whore of Babylon? Who is the woman with stars for a crown? Where are the 7 seals? Why are the martyrs hiding under the table?

Israel has been around since 1948. What is taking so long? The day of the nations all being against Israel is gone. The entire Western world and the Far East is fine with her existence. Are you as silly as the first Christians who thought they would be alive when Jesus returned?
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Israel is destined to be the seat of the Messiah...when that happens Yeshua's kingdom will not only become of the world...it will be the world.
Rev. 11
"My kingdom is not of this world."

Revelation or the Apocalypse is one long, angry, hallucination directed at Rome. Where's the Beast? Where's the Whore of Babylon? Who is the woman with stars for a crown? Where are the 7 seals? Why are the martyrs hiding under the table?

Israel has been around since 1948. What is taking so long? The day of the nations all being against Israel is gone. The entire Western world and the Far East is fine with her existence. Are you as silly as the first Christians who thought they would be alive when Jesus returned?


I will be posting a new thread to address your questions just for you Killa Kali.
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