![]()  | 
	
		Freethought & Rationalism ArchiveThe archives are read only. | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#1 | 
| 
			
			 Veteran Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Jun 2010 
				Location: Florida Panhandle 
				
				
					Posts: 9,176
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Leaving aside for a moment the issue of how many times the Amalekites 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	were killed to death, here is an interesting rationalization of the death of Saul: http://www.thewordteaches.com/questi...killedsaul.htm  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#2 | 
| 
			
			 Contributor 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Mar 2006 
				Location: Pittsfield, Mass 
				
				
					Posts: 24,500
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Well THAT's a handy loophole. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I wonder how it works on other contradictions...  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#3 | 
| 
			
			 Veteran Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Jun 2010 
				Location: Florida Panhandle 
				
				
					Posts: 9,176
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			A factual report of something that is a lie....
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#4 | 
| 
			
			 Contributor 
			
			
			
			Join Date: May 2010 
				Location: Babble Belt 
				
				
					Posts: 20,748
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			LOL! What a maroon! 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	So, according to this guy, any time that the narrator is not specifically identified in the Bible, that narrator must be God? I wonder how God wrote down the original? Did He do the zombie-ant thing with a scribe? Did He magically cause a scroll to appear in the scriptorium? :constern01: ETA: oh, and since the narrator in 2 Samuel is also not identified, it must similarly be God who is relating the story of the Amelekite's supposed lie. But why, then, did God neglect to include the fact that the Amelekite was lying? Didn't He realize how much confusion that omission was going to cause?  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#5 | |
| 
			
			 Veteran Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Jan 2002 
				Location: In the NC trailer park 
				
				
					Posts: 6,631
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			When you begin your defense of the Bible with, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
 Amazingly, this works for all texts considered inerrant by it's devotees. I realized this when I began to see what sort of dishonesty apologetics forces a person to resort to in order to maintain the illusion that the Bible is a perfect revelation from God. I used to go to Mormon, Jehovah Witness, and Muslim apologetic sights, and soon realized they were doing the exact same thing I was doing with the Bible. If special pleading can't be allowed for the Book of Mormon or Koran, why should Christians get a free pass with the Bible? It was a real eye opener for me, and another crack in my already crumbling belief system. For a really bizarre exercise in special pleading, go to one of these KJV 1611 only web pages. They're special pleading is a highly polished art form. (I bought into it for a short while in my own Christian experience)  | 
|
| 
		 | 
	
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#6 | 
| 
			
			 Veteran Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Jun 2004 
				Location: CA 
				
				
					Posts: 7,653
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			"The Bible does record the lies of men." 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	That is what we've been saying all along! Funny how god himself must be the narrator when no earthly narrator exists. Everywhere in literature we assume that an invisible narrator is merely the human author. Of course the bible has just a human author too. No reason to assume its god anymore than we should assume the writer of the article is god.  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#7 | 
| 
			
			 Contributor 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Mar 2006 
				Location: Pittsfield, Mass 
				
				
					Posts: 24,500
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#8 | |
| 
			
			 Veteran Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Jun 2010 
				Location: Florida Panhandle 
				
				
					Posts: 9,176
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 Quote: 
	
 A book upon whose understanding the eternal fat of all god's children rests, has, what appears on the "surface" (where it is easily seen) - conflicts. A loving father gave his word in such a way as to leave traps for the unwary? Actually, I have met a lot of xtians who LOVE the notion of a god who does such things, it makes them feel so much better about how they outsmarted them. They like the notion that they are the elite among god's children. It gets them so nicely around the notion of unearned grace.  | 
|
| 
		 | 
	
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#9 | 
| 
			
			 Veteran Member 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Sep 2010 
				Location: Texas 
				
				
					Posts: 5,810
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Too bad Saul could not have been hit by a lightening bolt.  That would be awesome.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#10 | 
| 
			
			 Banned 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Sep 2002 
				Location: Gone 
				
				
					Posts: 4,676
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread | 
		
  |