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Old 09-01-2006, 11:50 AM   #21
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Considering the lands involved had been part of the Byzantine Empire, what were Roman Catholics soldiers doing invading the area? If I remember right, the Byzantine Emperor had asked for a limited number of troops from Rome.
Theoretically the 1st crusade was carried out to assist the Byzantine Empire. The crusade leaders made agreements with the Emperor about working together and Antioch (until recently Byzantine) was held by the crusaders as vassals of the Byzantine Emperor.

The reality was somewhat different

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Considering the lands involved had been part of the Byzantine Empire, what were Roman Catholics soldiers doing invading the area? If I remember right, the Byzantine Emperor had asked for a limited number of troops from Rome.
What were canadian, australian and american troops doing fighting in Europe?

Okay, Ill admit, the crusaders did not behave very well in Byzantium nor in Jerusalem after they liberated it but that does not mean the initial reason for going on the crusade was unjust, especially when you consider the harrassment and discrimination going on by the mohammedan overlords on the original jewish and christian population.
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What were canadian, australian and american troops doing fighting in Europe?

Okay, Ill admit, the crusaders did not behave very well in Byzantium nor in Jerusalem after they liberated it but that does not mean the initial reason for going on the crusade was unjust, especially when you consider the harrassment and discrimination going on by the mohammedan overlords on the original jewish and christian population.

Was it any worse than what they suffered under Orthodox rule? A lot of theose Christians were not Orthodox.

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And I'm not sure the Roman church would treat them any better.

At that time, if you were not of the exact same belief as the people in power, but they saw you as some sort of heratic, you were screwed
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What were canadian, australian and american troops doing fighting in Europe?
Actually they would be more like Soviet troops driving out the Nazis in Eastern Europe.

At best. I read that perscution of non orthodox Christian helped with the conquest of Egypt and Syria.
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Actually they would be more like Soviet troops driving out the Nazis in Eastern Europe.
I suppose I could live with that analogy...
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