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Doug Shaver · 08-08-2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shirley knott

That would make a prophecy rather difficult to distinguish from a lucky guess, a coincidence, extremes of induction, etc.

I believe the criteria listed in the OP are supposed to address that.

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Originally Posted by shirley knott

For any case of a future-referencing statement that turns out to be correct, how could we ever determine that it was or was not a genuine prophecy on this definition?

That is an empirical question, and empirical questions cannot be answered with perfect certainty. We can only ask whether a reasonable person can justifiably believe that a genuine prophecy was made and was fulfilled, and even if so, whether other reasonable people can justifiably believe otherwise.

Paul2 · 08-08-2007, 10:50 AM

Someone should start a thread and track all of daves moronic statements with links to rebuttals so that when he repeats himself in the future as if nothings changed, we can simply respond with a link.

Though that may be kinda creepy/stalkerish.

Alt · 08-08-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul2

Someone should start a thread and track all of daves moronic statements with links to rebuttals so that when he repeats himself in the future as if nothings changed, we can simply respond with a link.

Though that may be kinda creepy/stalkerish.

From the snippets I've read so far, afdaves statements are worthy of a wiki entry. It may be kinda creepy/stalkerish but we can just cop out and say the devil made us do it, right?

Silent Dave · 08-08-2007, 02:56 PM

Funny, 33 posts into this thread and afdave himself has yet to make an appearance . . .

spamandham · 08-08-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent Dave

Funny, 33 posts into this thread and afdave himself has yet to make an appearance . . .

Has anyone PM'd dave to let him know this challenge awaits? It's possible, albeit unlikely, he just hasn't noticed this thread.

Silent Dave · 08-09-2007, 07:25 AM

It's been around for a week or so now. He's noticed it.

Faid · 08-09-2007, 08:13 AM

He remembers what happened last time he tried to defend this claim...

Silent Dave · 08-10-2007, 08:55 AM

He claimed victory anyway, and huffed off with an air of spiritual triumph?

Constant Mews · 08-10-2007, 09:04 AM

He failed dismally to present any example of a fulfilled prophecy.

Faid · 08-10-2007, 09:31 AM

...And huffed off.

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08-08-2007, 10:50 AM	#32
Paul2 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,088	Someone should start a thread and track all of daves moronic statements with links to rebuttals so that when he repeats himself in the future as if nothings changed, we can simply respond with a link. Though that may be kinda creepy/stalkerish.

08-08-2007, 02:56 PM	#34
Silent Dave Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bloomington, MN Posts: 2,209	Funny, 33 posts into this thread and afdave himself has yet to make an appearance . . .

08-09-2007, 07:25 AM	#36
Silent Dave Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bloomington, MN Posts: 2,209	It's been around for a week or so now. He's noticed it.

08-09-2007, 08:13 AM	#37
Faid Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 1,057	He remembers what happened last time he tried to defend this claim...

08-10-2007, 08:55 AM	#38
Silent Dave Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bloomington, MN Posts: 2,209	He claimed victory anyway, and huffed off with an air of spiritual triumph?

08-10-2007, 09:04 AM	#39
Constant Mews Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: California Posts: 1,395	He failed dismally to present any example of a fulfilled prophecy.

08-10-2007, 09:31 AM	#40
Faid Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 1,057	...And huffed off.

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