seebs

I finally decided, many years ago, that there was not much point in endless debate about whether or not my senses depicted real things external to me. I have decided to stick with attempts to make sense of my experiences. Of the explanations I've seen offered thus far, Christianity seems to be the best fit.

Quetzalcoatl

Cool so you have real things external to you that show Christianity to be true. Why are you holding out on us Seebs. People have being asking for this evidence. I look forward to your presentation of it.

atonal chaotic

Maybe ThorsHammer is trying to better understand his fellow human beings? Why do you want to make anything out of that? Why should "why do you believe" be off limits?

seebs

I am finding it very hard to find any interpretation of this post compatible with the assumption that it was made in good faith.

All I have is my experiences, and the general assumption I have made that my experiences are of things external to me. I cannot show you these experiences, but I suspect you have experiences of your own; it is up to you to decide how you wish to interpret them.

Agemegos

Are things really so bad where you live? Adherents.com estimates that it is only 84% worldwide.

IsItJustMe

I would be interested in hearing about those experiences, if they are not too personal.

But also... I think that your general assumption is quite sensible and it is one I make myself. But surely it is only a general assumption, yes?

Once, while driving very late at night, and on some pretty heavy medication, I thought I saw a giraffe standing at the door of a warehouse. The impression was real enough that I turned around and looked for a giraffe near the warehouse. Well, when I did not find a giraffe, or a circus wagon with a broken gate, or anything of the sort, I reached the same conclusion that I'm sure you would have: That I imagined it, that in this case my experience was not of anything external to me but only a phantom in my brain.

Quetzalcoatl

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Now you have retreated into the un testable confines of personal experiences {Edited}. Unless you sincerely believe that aliens really do anally probe rednecks. Your method yields incompatible truths about this world and leads to self delusion.

ThorsHammer

Simple curiosity, RB.

Berthold

If you define it like that, a VERY liberal Anglican (John Polkinghorne) is a part-time priest and has been awarded the Templeton Prize.

Quetzalcoatl

I thought the same thing when I read yours.
So do you have real data external to you that show Christianity to be true?