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Old 04-08-2009, 11:01 AM   #21
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It's obvious that she doesn't believe Jesus is Messiah, King, savior and redeemer, so I quite reading.
Are you a real Christian or are you just goofing off on here with a Christian alt?
I don't understand the question.
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I asked if you were a christian or just an atheist on here joking around.
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I asked if you were a christian or just an atheist on here joking around.
Oh, that's easy, I am a Christian. I'm beginning to wonder if I have a "kick me" sign on my back with everyone asking me if I am a Christian, what gives?
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It just seems to me like you're doing a mockery of a christian more than an actual one. The above comment reinforces a stereotype of Christians that no Christian should wish to propagate. It may just be wishful thinking on my part that an actual Christan wouldn't come on here and embarrass the whole vine.
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It just seems to me like you're doing a mockery of a christian more than an actual one. The above comment reinforces a stereotype of Christians that no Christian should wish to propagate. It may just be wishful thinking on my part that an actual Christan wouldn't come on here and embarrass the whole vine.
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NM the "WOW" convinced me.
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NM the "WOW" convinced me.
Of what
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I'm a fan of the feminist socialist version of Jesus and don't see the reason to believe otherwise.

He's serving the people and has women following him and doing the actual anointing for the Christ (the anointed).
How exactly is he serving the people? He's only serving the people if you believe he has magic powers of healing.

I'm sorry to follow Godwin's law, but it seems like the most apt example: Hitler had female followers. Having female followers doesn't make you a feminist.

Jesus' theories on how you should give publically and how you should treat the poor well were not so different from the Jewish thought of the time. Jesus' teachings were not radically opposed to the Jewish thought of the time. It just suited the gospel writers to claim Jesus was vitally different in order to undermine the pharisees (who, though not powerful when Jesus is meant to have lived, came to hold higher authority after the reign of the Herods ended, when the gospels were written).

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He also makes a prophecy of a female authority figure rising up and judging this adulterous nation.
He does? *scratches head* When? (Are you referring to the bit commonly interpreted as him forseeing the arrival of the holy spirit? I've heard Muslims use that verse to claim that Jesus was expecting the arrival of Muhammed...)

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A savior of the world isn't just going to try and save half the population and not the half that needs the most help.
Jesus never claims that women need the most help. Just because he is supposed to be a saviour for everyone doesn't mean that he has any interest in women's rights. Paul is the one who says that Jesus came for male and female and we all know his views on the status of women.
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I was being facetious towards his lack of response or rebuttal.
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How exactly is he serving the people? He's only serving the people if you believe he has magic powers of healing.
The washing of the feet. And teaching helping feed and healing, (which I don’t believe was magical but simple faith healing/placebo that we are all familiar with.
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I'm sorry to follow Godwin's law, but it seems like the most apt example: Hitler had female followers. Having female followers doesn't make you a feminist.
If Hitler had willing female followers then it seems most likely that they must have been receptive to his message.
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Jesus' theories on how you should give publically and how you should treat the poor well were not so different from the Jewish thought of the time. Jesus' teachings were not radically opposed to the Jewish thought of the time. It just suited the gospel writers to claim Jesus was vitally different in order to undermine the pharisees (who, though not powerful when Jesus is meant to have lived, came to hold higher authority after the reign of the Herods ended, when the gospels were written).
I don’t claim he is preaching anything new.
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He does? *scratches head* When? (Are you referring to the bit commonly interpreted as him forseeing the arrival of the holy spirit? I've heard Muslims use that verse to claim that Jesus was expecting the arrival of Muhammed...)
From post #9 in the thread. “The Queen of the South; Luke 11:31 Mathew 12:42”
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Jesus never claims that women need the most help. Just because he is supposed to be a saviour for everyone doesn't mean that he has any interest in women's rights. Paul is the one who says that Jesus came for male and female and we all know his views on the status of women.
I’m not saying that he said they need the most help just that they do need the most help and it’s hard to imagine that wasn’t considered. Freeing the people of their rulers is freeing all the people not just the half with penises.
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