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Old 02-21-2009, 08:49 AM   #61
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How would you know the person was really from that period in time? There is so much mythology in human cultures. The Mahabharata / start of the Kaliyuga is supposedly dated to 23 January 3102 BC (10AM). There are lots of people who are named as being part of that war.

As far as I can tell, there is no date for Nimrod.
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AFAIK or IIRC there is a lot of Jews Rabbi and Archeologists and Historians who agree that Their old Bible has almost nothing correct. They have really tried to find something to point to and very little did they find. Am I wrong?
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How would you know the person was really from that period in time? There is so much mythology in human cultures. The Mahabharata / start of the Kaliyuga is supposedly dated to 23 January 3102 BC (10AM). There are lots of people who are named as being part of that war.

As far as I can tell, there is no date for Nimrod.
There is a date for Nimrod - when one checks the Hebrew calendar and sums up all the dates listed. It also gives the day Adam was born, according to that calendar's criteria - before which there is no history per se.
In any case, Nimrod is the first 'recorded' king.
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Those kinds of dates are available plentifully in Hindu tradition, geneologies of kings as well as astrological conjunctions that can be related to actual dates assuming they are not simply made up. If you take them quite seriously there are recorded kings from 7000 BC (e.g. Rama of the Ramayana). But I think they are mythology.
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AFAIK or IIRC there is a lot of Jews Rabbi and Archeologists and Historians who agree that Their old Bible has almost nothing correct. They have really tried to find something to point to and very little did they find. Am I wrong?
The reverse is the case - unless you refer to some mis-conceptions in interpretation; for example many christians mis-rep the Hebrew bible by reading it as the world, as opposed speech endowed humans, are 6000 years old.

There has not been anything disproven in the Hebrew bible todate, with over 70% of its historical factors scientifically proven. Moses is not proven but there is loads of evidences; the miracles cannot be proven. All else is proven, in a manner no other document has - this is remarkable considering the anciency of the period.
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How come there is no Nimrod in the archaeological or historical record? Besides there are definitely Mesopotamian kings older than him (all the Sumerians for instance).
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Those kinds of dates are available plentifully in Hindu tradition, geneologies of kings as well as astrological conjunctions that can be related to actual dates assuming they are not simply made up. If you take them quite seriously there are recorded kings from 7000 BC (e.g. Rama of the Ramayana). But I think they are mythology.
The Mahabharata war can be dated from the internal astronimical data. Either the dates are true or some super brains back calculated the data.
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How come there is no Nimrod in the archaeological or historical record? Besides there are definitely Mesopotamian kings older than him (all the Sumerians for instance).
Mesopotamia is post Nimrod and Noah.
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Noah lived for nearly 1000 years. That is the length of entire civilizations. And Mesopotamia begins in 5000BC.
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The history of Mesopotamia begins with the emergence of urban societies in northern Iraq in 5000 BCE, and ends with either the arrival of the Achaemenid Empire in the 6th century BCE, when Mesopotamia began being colonized by foreign powers, or with the arrival of the Islamic Caliphate, when the region came to be known as Iraq.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamia#History
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Noah lived for nearly 1000 years.
Could that be their way to indicate the persons are more like symbolic names for a family dynasty where the sons that take over also is seen as working in same style and thus just continuing in the name of Noah.

In same way as Jesus telling them that they do things in his name that are greater than he has done. so could it be a way they use to indicate that they sustained his "legacy" and thus they say he lived or his ways lasted this long. just guessing

I mean how can we now this far in time how they looked upon what a name stand for.

Christians say that Jesus is alive now so why would not Noah be in same way "living" for thousand of years. I mean this is religious people who use words in ways we have no knowledge of what it meant to them. But I am speculating.
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