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Originally Posted by GakuseiDon
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Originally Posted by Vorkosigan
Don, isn't literalism a 19th century American invention? Didn't it arise in response to the Enlightenment?
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As a fundamentalist doctrine and as a reaction to the Dutch radicals, yes, that's right. That's why I was surprised at Toto's comment. I don't doubt though that there were those who thought that the Bible should be taken literally, but I was wondering if how early that was. It doesn't appear to be dominant in early Christianity.
Besides Origen, we find Eusebius of Caesarea writing in the Fourth Century CE: Now you may find in the Hebrew Scriptures also thousands of such passages concerning God as though He were jealous, or sleeping, or angry, or subject to any other human passions, which passages are adopted for the benefit of those who need this mode of instruction. |
ORIGEN himself claimed Jesus was TRULY born of a Virgin and the Holy Ghost.
Origen in De Principiis
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...4. The particular points clearly delivered in the teaching of the apostles are as follows........ That Jesus Christ Himself..... was born of a virgin and of the Holy Spirit.... He did truly rise from the dead; and that after His resurrection He conversed with His disciples, and was taken up (into heaven)...
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ORIGEN in "Against Celsus" 1.32
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...let us see whether those who have blindly concocted these fables about the adultery of the Virgin with Panthera, and her rejection by the carpenter, did not invent these stories to overturn His miraculous conception by the Holy Ghost
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It is CLEAR that ORIGEN wrote that JESUS was LITERALLY the CHILD of the HOLY GHOST that was LITERALLY raised from the dead and ASCENDED to heaven.
Gakuseidon does not know what he is talking about.
05-26-2011, 09:24 AM
