aa5874

It is really a one-way street.

People use lies to sell their products and the buyers believe the sellers are honest.

But, with respect to religion, the so-called watch-dog, the government, gives full support and make laws that allow the sellers of religion to make known false claims about Gods without penalty.

International laws should be passed to penalised people who make known false claims about Gods.

Freedom of Religion should not mean freedom to propagate known false claims about Gods in public places.

No Robots

Why the scare quotes? Or are you just quoting Carrier, who himself entitled this post of his, "Carrier Converts to Mythicist Position".


Yet, like I said, this will not, in all likelihood, lead him to repudiate his mythicist position.

andrewcriddle

I'm a bit surprised by this.

I was brought up as a child in a rather conservative Christian tradition, but it was always made clear that a/ December 25th is the agreed date for celebrating the birth of Jesus but b/ Jesus probably wasn't actually born on that date.

Andrew Criddle

bacht

Well, unless people are forced to convert isn't it a free speech/free assembly issue? Or would you liken it to a health threat like smoking, where regulators have a duty to warn the customer?

Amaleq13

Not when you take into account the fact that he only relatively recently changed his position to mythicism.

Your bias against mythicists is showing. It is generally considered poor form to engage in that which you decry in others.

I think they even have a word for it.

I think it is a safe bet that you've already decided what you are going to think about his efforts prior to putting any actual thought into it.

I think they have a word for that as well.

rlogan

Hi Andrew

Well then you were deceived too. Because there was no "agreement". Instead it was a dictate that was superimposed upon something that was actually useful: The celebration of winter solstice (It was on the 25th before the calendar changed).

It is far more useful to engage young minds with celestial movements than it is to divert attention from it for the purpose of brainwashing them with illogical myths of God sending himself to commit suicide so that we can be forgiven for him creating us all as sinners in the first place.

But again - the contradictions. Golly, in a couple of decades I do not recall a single one being pointed out.


I think that is a euphimism though, show.

And what it means can vary, but the extension of power and influence of the church is certainly one thing it means.

No Robots

He has? Do tell.

spin

I too found your statement about deception hinting at libel on your part. You are welcome to your humble opinion that Carrier is "peddling bilge", but your claim of deception is of another order in that it is attacking the person's character rather than simply displaying your unsupported opinions.

But I take this "Perhaps not" as an attempt to downplay your previous faux pas without actually retracting it.

What position is that?


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Roger Pearse

Yeah! Burn them all alive!

<disgust>

Roger Pearse

spin

Strangely, that was the christian approach.


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