Sheshbazzar

You are getting 'creative' with the text of John 7:52. Nicodemus was not told to investigate Jeebus, The sense was to search the Scriptures to see that no Prophet comes from Galilee. Not to perform any spy operation on the individual, whom had already been summarily dismissed as being of any significance, being from Galilee. The Scriptural texts were to show Nicodemus that this guy was really a nobody who was not worth the time of day.
Actually, textual scholars have shown that large portions of these sayings and tropes were drawn from other sources.
What reads like fiction, looks like fiction, and smells like fiction, amazingly enough, most likely is fiction.
Where do you get that idea? There are discourses in Matthew, Mark, and Luke, whom virtually all textual scholars place earlier than the writing of John.

Then why aren't you quoting directly from this Gospel of Nicodemus? Wouldn't that be the best source for Nicodemus's actual writings?

Anything goes when writing fiction. It remains to be establised whether this highly fictionalized character ever even had a lifetime. If he did, it certainly was not that one that is described in the Gospels.
Evidence that parties unknown, a long time ago, in a place not identified, wrote some highly imaginative religious literature.
Now you don't believe the actual content of that fictional literature, so you want to edit it again to make it appear not quite so ridiculous.
Sorry dude. The shits already on the ground. You can play in it all you want, but you can't magically transmute it into gold.

Doug Shaver

I'll admit it when I see it happen.

Adam

Shesh's #391 deserves a response, but I'll wait a bit to allow more time for responses to the substantive issues in my posts #370 and #386. I'll at least note that Shesh's hyper-literalism in his #391 far outdoes any HRer--so John 7:52 is inerrant Holy Writ after all? More than mere evidence?

Sheshbazzar

Good grief. It is not 'hyper-literalism'. The STORY exists, and the point of the STORY in this verse, is that there is no mention of any prophet from Galilee to be found within The Scriptures.
Ergo, 'Nicodemus' is being told by the Pharisees, that without any Scriptural evidence of such, no prophet from Galilee can be accepted;

"Surely YHWH Elohim does nothing, Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets." (Amos 3:7)

In the STORY-line of John 7:52, Nicodemus is being told by the Pharisees that The Scriptures indicate Jeebus, being from Galilee, is not a prophet, and to 'go into and examine The Scriptures.

NOT, as you have incorrectly implied, Engaged righteous Nicodemus in a nasty plot 'to go out and shadow and spy on this guy and write down whatever dirt you can find that we can use against him'.
Based on their knowledge of The Scriptures, the Pharisees simply dismissed your Jeebus hero as not being a valid prophet.

They never sent Nicodemus to write up any derogatory reports on what Jeebus might have said. This is only found in your unjustified evil imaginings against the character of the moral and upright Nicodemus.

The character (the integrity) of the NT's character Nicodemus, does not bear your defamatory accusations of Nicodemus ever being willingly or personally engaged in any 'dirty-deeds plot' by the Pharisees.

If Nicodemus were real, and were alive, he could successfully sue you for Slander and Public Defamation of his Character.


The evidence here is, That you have erred in your understanding the actual sense of the STORY'S John 7:52 TEXT, to prop up your imaginary and slanderous 'Conspiracy of Nicodemus' theory.






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