FRDB Archives

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.


Go Back   FRDB Archives > Archives > Religion (Closed) > Biblical Criticism & History
Welcome, Peter Kirby.
You last visited: Yesterday at 03:12 PM

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-14-2004, 04:51 AM   #11
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 1,682
Default

tezz,
Wikipedia has a decent article on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture

No mention of Blondie in there, for some reason.

As far as dates go, just google "rapture predictions" and have at it. Predicting the rapture is a favorite hobby of the "God's gonna getcha!" American fundies. Some of the predictions coalesce from bizarre biblical numerology, and are (or have been) very specific, others are like weather predictions: "There is a strong chance of the rapture occurring within the next five years." But universally, the rapture has been, and is, said to be imminent, or "soon." Good luck trying to pin them down on "soon." I've tried in the past, but the harder you squeeze, the more slippery they'll get, like a wet bar of soap (careful, though, because if it isn't wet enough, you can squeeze it so hard that it just squishes out between your fingers, and then you just have a mess).

Believers like Magus55 tout current events as indicative of the "End Times" in which the Rapture will occur. Magus recently confidently offered the truly unspectacular fact that Mt. St. Helens in our Washington state is about to burp, as an indication that "the world is looking more and more prophetic."

They claim, as they have for what, 2000 years, that the signs of the end are obvious to anyone with eyes, but, as Magus sagely remarks, "Not that atheists notice anything." Yeah, like the fact that they have been saying this shit for 2000 years.

ref: http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...4&page=2&pp=25
ten to the eleventh is offline  
Old 10-14-2004, 05:10 AM   #12
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 1,682
Default

When I first read the thread title, I saw "Liberal Rapture." and thought that someone might be offering the glorious hope that we true believers in liberalism might be swept up, bodily, and taken to some wonderful, wonderful place where the air is clean, the water is pure, animals coexist harmoniously, and we all love and respect each other, despite our cultural differences. And the concerts would be sweet .

The conservatives, on the other hand, would be left to their own hellish devices, fouling the earth they live on, killing and maiming and warring, spiralling downwards into miserable ignorance, festering in their disease-ridden self-imposed feudalistic earth-hell, with the wailing and the gnashing and the crying...

And all just because they were too proud to admit the truth of liberalism as plainly presented to them by the prophets Noam Chomsky and Gloria Steinem. You see, conservatives choose to stay in Hell.

Come, come with me to the wonderful liberal heaven!

ten to the eleventh
ten to the eleventh is offline  
Old 10-14-2004, 10:47 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 932
Default

But who would you tax since no one has jobs?
gregor is offline  
Old 10-14-2004, 10:52 AM   #14
Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 40,549
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ten to the eleventh

Quote:
34 I tell you, on that night two men will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left.
Hmmm. I hadn't recalled that particular verse. I wonder how God will choose between the sodomites?
Well, you can't read our current culture back into first century Palestine. You notice that Matthew has two men working in the field; Luke amends this to two men lazing around in bed, with the implication that women would be working while men relaxed. This proto-feminist jab at men is part of the evidence that Randal Helms uses to speculate that Luke was actually a woman.
Toto is offline  
Old 10-14-2004, 12:43 PM   #15
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Tucson, Arizona, USA
Posts: 1,242
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ten to the eleventh

They claim, as they have for what, 2000 years, that the signs of the end are obvious to anyone with eyes, but, as Magus sagely remarks, "Not that atheists notice anything." Yeah, like the fact that they have been saying this shit for 2000 years.
...and Christians wonder why we don't take their prophecies seriously. 2000 years of failed End Times/Rupture/Armageddon/Parousia/etc prophecy doesn't make for credibility.

To my mind, the most entertaining website covering this subject is The End Of The World As We Know It...Again.
Jeremy Pallant is offline  
Old 10-14-2004, 02:23 PM   #16
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: The Tethys Sea
Posts: 369
Default LaHaye's "Left Behind" Series

I find it fascinating that fundies (at least those who are Dispensationalists) believe the parousia to be one of the highlights of their religious life. They all look forward to this event as the culmination of their lives. This is evidenced by the popularity of Tim LaHaye's fictious series called the "Left Behind" series. This is a collection of books detailing how all the Christians will be plopped from the earth up into the clouds with J.C. while all us infidels are left down here on earth. Not having ever read this tripe myself, as I understand it, the main thrust of the books is how those of us who were unfortunate enough to remain behind must now deal with "The Beast" , etc. from Revelation

Why do Christians dig this #$%* so much? :huh:
Epictetus is offline  
Old 10-14-2004, 02:49 PM   #17
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NC
Posts: 2,059
Default

Quote:
I noticed that Magus55 said that a billion americans would disappear . . .
So is each person in America gonna disappear three to four times over, or what?
Naruto is offline  
Old 10-15-2004, 11:25 AM   #18
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 27
Default

Hey you should be careful!!!!! According to the Bible, there will be wars, rumors of wars, famine, natural disasters, and..... uh well it appears that this stuff has always been here, so..... Always expect it! That's what is taught. Not the part that it's always been here, but that the antichrist is upon us. :devil1: After hearing this 3 times a week for for my entire life I know the arguments. :banghead: And I know that until I see a world controlling dictator that makes you get "the mark of the beast" I'll be skeptical. And for you who don't know, the mark of the beast is the number of man which is 666. How a number is evil I don't know, but if people disappear :wave: ..... I'll be saved! :notworthy Hope I haven't offended anyone.
Amantia Muscaria is offline  
Old 10-15-2004, 12:14 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 865
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amantia Muscaria
Hope I haven't offended anyone.
Far from it. In fact, if it wasn't for the Website that Jeremy posted, you'd be the funniest thing on this thread.
apocalypsecow is offline  
Old 10-15-2004, 02:03 PM   #20
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 1,682
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amantia Muscaria
And for you who don't know, the mark of the beast is the number of man which is 666.
That depends of your interpretation of Hebrew. It might be 616. Or maybe it's the square root of 616....Run away!!
ten to the eleventh is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:38 AM.

Top

This custom BB emulates vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.