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Justin DISTINTCLY made reference to the Memoirs of the Apostles called Gospels when he wrote about the Ritual of the Eucharist. Justin did NOT make any reference to 1 Cor.11.26-29. First Apology LXVI Quote:
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Neither of us knows the dates of authorship of any of this crap. Justin Martyr's explanation to the emperor can just as easily be drawn from Mark 14: 22-25, or gospel of Matthew. You have simply furnished yet another instance where Paul draws from the extant gospels. |
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since pauls historicity and dating is not up for debate by proffessionals you cant say he didnt draw from paul. with that said, you would have had a better arguement claiming the Eucharist was common oral tradition that paul and justin both pulled from. Quote:
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Justin Martyr, 145,second Discourse to the Greeks quotes Galatians
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Of course there is no reasono on earth to accept the Justin text less critically than one would accept the epistles.
Just as in the case of the epistles there is not a drop of evidence that this Apology was ever written by anyone in the second century to any emperor, or that such an emperor ever received it. This is besides the lack of logic of the Apology itself as an appeal to an emperor. Quote:
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There is a discussion at Justin and Paul
It concludes that although Justin and Paul share some distinctive ideas and vocabulary it cannot be established that Justin had a direct knowledge of Paul's letters. Andrew Criddle |
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The Pauline writings are PRESUMED to be early by Scholars. |
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the link i was at had [second] written before it. im at work ill grab the reffernce, for that and dig up all the other refferences |
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