Paraprakrti

Yes, the soul is pure. Unfortunately the soul is covered by your false ego, which is ignorant of the soul.


Another example of ignorance.


You have only the power that God allows you to have. You get puffed up in ego and then you die. What happened to your power?

MonCapitan2002

Urine doesn't actually come from a woman's vagina. Unlike men, women have a seperate urinary tract. However, at the time that these superstitions were formed, the people probably did not realise this.

Bright Life

If you have some evidence for your assertions, then present them. Thinly veiled insults are neither evidentiary or permissible posts.

Bright Life
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premjan

seven8s, thanks for your kind words and I will try to take them to heart.

Paraprakrti

Evidence: Bhagavad-Gita

seven8s

Lets see........................I state that the soul is pure, and you agree with me, but, you then state that my soul is covered by my false ego and as such I am ignorant of my soul. Hmm, your reasoning has presented itself with a problem because I cannot know that my soul is pure if my ego is false. Ignorance simply means a state of ignoring. I am not ignoring the purity of my soul therefore my ego is truth.

Now ego.............................hmm, lets see........................

1. A person’s sense of self esteem or self importance. 2. Psychoanalysis, the part of the mind that mediates between the conscious and the unconsciousness and is responsible for the interpretation of reality and the development of a sense of self.

Consciousness is simply awareness through discernment. So I can truthfully say that some part of my mind (ego) has mediated between that which is in the world (information) with that which lies within me and has discovered purity. From that discovery I build my self esteem. But apparently you don’t like my discovery, you don’t like my purity, and so you call it false. Well thank God you’re not in charge, which you are trying to be by labeling my ego as false. For my ego to be false it would have to be ignorant of my soul. In actuality you just proved me right.............now on to your next assumption




Really? If it is true that a body, a person, contains a soul it is also true that the soul has the potentiality to permeate the body, is the person. In other words if the body is useless it makes no sense that the soul would inhabit it. How one defines the word soul is the question at large. I define the soul as an energy, a force of purity that runs concurrently in mankind with other operational forces. In that the body and the soul operate in conjunction they in harmony create, and recreate, life (ego). In my case 5 times, well including myself 6.

Now what is a false ego. A false ego is the false sense of self that has been instilled in mankind from that moment of birth, and accepted by an individual as truth. Where does mankind obtain that false information, from outside himself. When my body and my soul (purity) create life, it creates life that is pure. It cannot create life in any other form. If my ego has not discerned between that which is false and that which is real (purity) it is disconnected from the body, hence the soul. In that my ego is as important in the process of creation as is the body and soul my life’s experiences are as I think they are. I pass (project) that false sense of self to others, including to my children.

The body is pure. It is dis-eased because it has been taught dis-ease by an ego that is diseased (anxious). The soul tries to rescue it’s body everyday, but then some false ego comes along everyday and tries to do the opposite. It succeeds only in creating another false ego, and/or enlarging an already developing false ego. An ego having been taught that it’s soul is impure, and believing that, frantically searches outside itself for an answer to be made pure again (a pretender, as one man on these boards has coined it). It enlarges itself. Group mentality as such develops. Any deviation from that group mentality is seen as attack by the group. A group mentality cannot survive if deviation (independence) is allowed by the group. In other words that false ego begins to deflate. To prevent deflation the group must attack that which it sees as the source of that deflation.



Yes, and the power that God has allowed me is all power (real or false). And I agree one gets puffed up in ego; however, depending upon which ego I get puffed up in, meaning false (yours) or real (mine), will determine my life’s experiences. If I don’t like my life’s experiences I can change them at any time, take back my power. That is the purpose of my ego, discernment, the purpose of my individuality. But the good news is this................

What happens to my power when I die? The chafe (false) is separated from the grain (truth). And my soul, which we both agree is pure rises. If it is true that the soul is pure then the soul cannot lose it’s purity, or it couldn’t be true. My soul is never touched by anything you believe, and equally, my soul is never touched by anything I believe. My soul is patient; it simply awaits my ego’s discovery (knowledge) of it’s existence, and my bodies remembrance (knowledge).

I take my power (purity) with me and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it. Perhaps that’s what upsets you. I have been given a power you cannot control. You cannot make me miserable in an after life, you can only attempt to make me miserable in this life, and even that is in my power to control. Yep, I have been given all power.

I am the bubble in the ocean that will escape, proving the oceans emptiness, and you are the friction at the surface that will set me free. Ah, yes, fresh air.

Bright Life

Evidence: Lemon Tarts.

Doesn't make much sense, does it? This is a discussion board. You have to actually present the evidence. Obviously, the majority of posters here do not accept any sacred scriptures as proof of anything. You'll have to actually present the ideas, and explain them. Otherwise, you come off looking like a ninny, and none of us want that.

BL

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Paraprakrti

seven8s,

You can know in concept that the soul is pure, but if you think that you have actually created souls then your knowledge is not practical realization. Your knowledge of the soul is thus partial. At some point it is compromised by false ego.


A soul is not created from sexual intercourse. You engage your body with one of the opposite sex and in doing so produce an offspring body, which a soul indwells, but you did not create that soul.

Paraprakrti

I don't understand what the difficulty is. I believe this is the "General Religious Discussions" in which we are conversing.

Bright Life

The difficulty is that you are making assertions without presenting evidence.

To have a proper discussion, you must present ideas with supporting evidence. This is General Religious Discussions, but if you'll notice, this falls within the larger Internet Infidels Discussion Forum. The mission of which is

By simply claiming that your particular sacred tome is the be-all end-all of your evidence, you are NOT exploring any common ground, you are merely preaching. I'd like to see you become a valuable member of this board, as theists of non-abrahamic religions are relatively scarce here.

So, consider this advice, then explain to us why what you say is true. And remember, just because someone says something is true in a book doesn't make it so.

BL
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