IamJoseph

While this is against all norms and nature, as seen today - it also defies being a typo or a misunderstanding: it is amazingly in allignment with the maths of the Hebrew calendar - regarded the oldest and most accurate calendar in existence. One would need a super computer to match such math elegance even today: it would have to match 100s of 1000s of other dates in the lifespans of generations listed in many sectors of the Bible - and be exact to the day in a 3000 year period! It would also have to be geographically well versed - to include the first recorded location of Mount Ararat.

Further, numerous persons in that particular period are accounted with such life spans - again, this is not an isolated stat in the Hebrew bible. The final point is we have no record of any human's life span in that spacetime - thus it is not disputable, aside from its un-natural implication. We find all the surrounding stats of life spans listed in other nation's records only after the flood period - e.g. of the Pharoahs.

It is a deceptively simple issue.

IamJoseph

The Mahabarata is a very interesting treatise and not sufficiently regarded in the west. However, I found many followers of it saying it is not an historical but symbolic treatise. This appears correct because it contains no historically verifiable stats: if it was 9000 years old, there is a clear anomoly why we have no historical, alphabetical books older than the Hebrew - nor a single reference of an identifable historical human name. :constern01:

premjan

Mahabharata contains astronomical conjuctions, which are verifiable with reference to actual star movements. It is a substantially realistic text though it contains some myth along with supposed history.

IamJoseph

Yes, this is very advanced stuff, and is also agreed to in the Hebrew bible concerning the stars and the zodiac: 'They shall be as signs [astronomy] and omens [astrology] unto you'. My point only related to historical accounting here on earth.

rcscwc

It is not regareded sufficiently ONLY because it nagates lots of NT dates. Secondly, it establishes the truth in the Mahabharata. Ac westren man would be dead before he acknowledges Hinduism.

The War can be dated in two ways:
King lists from Yudhishtra to Nanda, predecessor of Chandragupta. Nanda was HISTORICAL. Second, the astronomical data at the time of the WAR. Both agree surprisingly. If you discount the astounding life spans of OT figures, like Adam, Noah etc, OT cannot be older than 1500 BC.

premjan

The main difference between Hindu and Judaic mythology is that the former tends to prefer a metaphorical or mythological style and the latter is more literalist and presents a historical facade. I think this is just a difference of style. Both contain manufactured elements with perhaps a core of historical content.

IamJoseph

NT dates are not historical, with no evidence of its figures, events and figures. But nothing in the Hebrew bible has ever been disproven, while over 70% has been.





Those figures and datings can only be discounted by a counter proof - but a total mystery, including history per se, surrounds anything pre-6000. The OT as 1500 BCE is historically verifiable; its depictions of earlier periods has no counter. I see it impacting that we have no history [no 'names'] older than 6000 years which can be evidenced - specially when this is made as such a bold, high risk declaration in the Hebrew bible, exactingly to the day and year. It is dfficult to dismiss it as a fluke, guesswork or myth.

fatpie42

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70% has been what?

I hope you are just talking about dating here and aren't expecting us to suppose that the stories about Samson are historical.

rlogan

Exactly so. What it has proven, in fact, is that more than a million people can live somewhere without leaving a trace of their existence.

It was a "green" community. They didn't even poop.


Moses had the foresight to die before he wrote about himself. A lot of people forget to do that.


I'm re-thinking Noah. If you freeze-dry and vacuum pack, you can put a lot of protein on one ship.

It's possible.

IamJoseph

Overall, with datings and historical events, no other writings has equivalent proof - despite the anciency of the Hebrew writings. It is extremely rare, if not impossible, to find archeological proof for 3000 year figures like David and Solomon, matched with relics in Hebrew and mentioning events with adjacent nations - contrasted against no proof of 2000 year figures such as Jesus, Mary and the apostles. Many scholars declared David a myth before the Tel Dan discovery - and these have not recovered from their errors.

The story of Samson, some 100 years prior to David, has nothing which contradicts history, depicting Gaza and its underground tunnels as a stronghold of the Philistines, later conquered by David in the same location described in the Book of Judges [Samson].