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These sorts of things are done everyday throughout the world. Written statements are examined and deductions are made. Saul in Acts is introduced LONG AFTER the Great Commission and Authorisation to preach the Jesus story by the Apostles of Resurrected Jesus. It is IMPERATIVE that you remember the chronology. The Great Commission was to the Apostles FIRST. The Apostles ACTED ---SAUL RE-ACTED with persecutions. The author of Acts DOCUMENTED the ACTS of SAUL. The author of ACTS wrote NOTHING of a letter to Galatians by SAUL. The GALATIANS letter is AFTER ACTS of the Apostles. |
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Well I'll be darned! I was under the impression that Acts were written long after Galatians.
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According to some sources I have here, Luke was the author of Acts, at least thirty to forty years after Paul/Saul is dead. Long after Galatians which is one of the early epistles of Paul/Saul.
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Most people think that Paul wrote his letters in the mid first century, and that Acts was written sometime in the second century. Acts does not reference Paul's letters, because it was written by a different church faction (anti-Marcionite), and the letters represented the Marcionite faction. There is a minority view, which has some logic behind it, that parts of Paul's letters were written about the same time as Acts, or were revised to counter Acts. |
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The opinion of Couchoud is that the catholic edition contains additions, which became necessary to contradict Marcion's Apostolicon. |
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Toto, why would a different faction like Paul as much as the faction thst wrote epistles from Marcion? He is certainly an important person in Acts. Why wouldn't the anti-Marcion faction reject Paul?
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Most people do NOT use the evidence available. Please, refer to the list of Dated New Testament Papyri. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...stament_papyri I no longer accept what most people PRESUME. Those days are over. At one time MOST people PRESUMED the earth was flat. Most people IGNORE the fact that there is NO DATED Text by Paleography or C 14 for any New Testament Manuscript in the 1st century, before c 70 CE, and continue, as if in a dream, to SPOUT absurdities using Acts of the Apostles to date the Pauline activities. Acts of the Apostles can NO longer be used to date Pauline activities when it may have been written 180 years AFTER the Fall of the Temple. The Dated New Testament Manuscript has REVEALED that there was NO Jesus, No disciples and NO Paul in the 1st century and before c 70 CE. Most people IGNORE the DATED New Testament Manuscript because they CONTRADICT their position and would make their view OBSOLETE. The dated New Testament Papyri makes Ehrman and Doherty OBSOLETE. Quote:
I am done with views, majority or minority, that have NO credible evidence. I am dealing with the DATED New Testament Manuscript and the sources of antiquity that are compatible with them. It is TIME people here start doing HISTORY based on Dated Manuscripts instead of relying on what Most people Presume. |
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