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Now, on the merit of the argument: The mythical Jesus seems improbable given the sudden historical appearance of sects where a leader by the same name was idolized despite his apparently humiliating execution by the authorities. So the burden on the mythicist is not just to show the source of the myth and its pristine form, but how the myth became the object of sharp controversy in its earliest stages of development, a controversy about the nature of divine intervention it declared. Jiri |
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Aside from that one line at the begining of the book of John, where else is it claimed that Jesus is God? And why didn't Jesus claim it? |
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He assumes he knows the inventors, their generation, even when and where the inventors lived. No such things can be confirmed. Who actually wrote the Gospels, when were the Gospels written and where were they written and distributed? And what source show that Jesus was living within any generation? The fatal flaw of Dunn is exposed. Jesus could have been invented many years after his purported death and in a country many hundreds of miles away from Judaea. |
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This is a very useful review - more an extended book report than a review. Other parts can be found at: Review of the Introduction, Luke Timothy Johnson, Crossan and Responses to Crossan, Price, with more to come. From the review of the Introduction, there is this comment on the elusive consensus: Quote:
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I see the above Jesi missed the teacher of righteousness - and Solo, I believe the depth of soil of the Christ is much much deeper - back to the main prophets and the Septaguint translators in Alexandria.
The grafting of a Jesus to the root stock Christ was probably started unconsciously by Paul, and then Mark wrote a Greek play in Alexandria. Made in Egypt? |
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So the HJ can be called the IMAGINATION JESUS or IJ. Jesus was whatever you imagine him to be. |
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Unsympathetic reviewers of Price fairly consistently remark on his rhetoric, which serves only to inspire in-group backslapping, but convinces no one. It might be good for a chuckle. But it's bad scholarship. |
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If someone has a god starting point, the five impossible things before breakfast becomes very easy. They will pare away all or most of the legendary accretions - most do not actually - but because of the default god position they still think a person is required to start it all. But actually it is a new idea - a god becoming man to save us all and bring a new heaven and earth. And they all lived happily ever after (well some did...). (Is it John Lennon who says before or after a track of a Beatle's Album "And all the angels sing") |
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