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Doug Shaver · 03-16-2012, 11:49 PM

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I would think that this would take a while for the person to die

That's precisely why they did it. The whole point of crucifixion was to cause death very slowly and painfully.

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the point was to make a example out of someone

living on the cross would have always been a short affair,

You say so. Every authority I have read, from the most conservative to the most radical, says otherwise.

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and it was designed to take life, not support it.

I said nothing to the contrary.

spin · 03-16-2012, 11:54 PM

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I would think that this would take a while for the person to die

That's precisely why they did it. The whole point of crucifixion was to cause death very slowly and painfully.

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the point was to make a example out of someone

living on the cross would have always been a short affair,

You say so. Every authority I have read, from the most conservative to the most radical, says otherwise.

And one need only point to the fact that the story indicates when Jesus died people were surprised at the speedy death.

But I'd think both points of view are correct. The spectacle is for an audience.

andrewcriddle · 03-17-2012, 03:49 AM

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FWIW Cherestus is not listed as a variant in the Teubner edition of suetonius

Andrew Criddle

Thanks for the tip. Drews also seems to have originated the factoid that in the 16th century Vossius possessed a manuscript of Josephus that was lacking the TF.

On Vossius and the TF see Voss(ius) and Josephus

Andrew Criddle

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