jjramsey

The problem with this is that the account of JtB is not in itself given a Christian coloring. His death is not attributed to Herod fulfilling the request of his dancing daughter, nor is he said to be the forerunner of the Christ. Contrast this with the TF, which at the least has been doctored and has obviously Christian content.

Amaleq13

It has already been pointed out that you have not yet offered any methodology which could be said to justify your conclusion that the Gospels are "embellished history".

jjramsey

See here: http://iidb.org/vbb/showpost.php?p=3222641&postcount=83

jakejonesiv

You are assuming that the interpolation could only have been made by an othodox (or catholic Christian). Evidently, it was a made by a heretic of some kind, or a Jewish Christian. Zindler discusses this on page 96 of “The Jesus the Jews Never Knew.”

Jake Jones IV

jjramsey

Not necessarily. The problem is that there is simply no Christian coloring at all, no mention of any relationship of JtB to Christianity. All Zindler can truthfully say is that the text is clearly an aside, but that would make it interrupt the flow of the text regardless of whether Josephus wrote it or not.

Amaleq13

Yeah, that is the post to which my linked post was a response.

As I pointed out in that post, what you offered is not a methodology for reliably identifying history in the stories nor a sound basis for the conclusion that they are "embellished history".

Amaleq13

I thought Zindler suggested the interpolation was introduced by a follower of the Baptist's teachings.

jakejonesiv

But the passover lamb wasn't crucified.

Jake

jakejonesiv

If the link in my post above on page 96 works, you can see what Zindler wrote.

jakejonesiv

No, Zindler gives four other reasons for interpolation beginning on page 98. To mention one, Josephus thought castle Macherus petained to Aretas, but the interpolator thought Macherus was Herod's to command.

Jake Jones IV