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Old 01-08-2006, 09:10 AM   #61
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Does anyone understand how Solidarity overcame Communism through the church, it did so on the basis that you cannot argue with the Bible, for all its faults when you have something like Communism to face you can do so and win with the Bible. I say this as a complete non believer, I would fight with the Bible on my side when faced with an oppressive system that takes away my rights, and thats a complete contradiction that I will support however how crazy it may sound. This is the problem that Italy will face in this court case the Bible is something that can be used to maintain human rights for all of its faults. This will be some paradox for them as it is for me and no doubt some of you.
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The audience of January 27th 2006 has been confirmed at the Court of Justice in Viterbo for the lawsuit of Luigi Cascioli against don Enrico Righi, parish priest in Bagnoregio, as representative of ministers of religion, for abuse of popular credulity and impersonation
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The audience of January 27th 2006 at 9 am has been confirmed at the Court of Justic in Viterbo for the lawsuit of Luigi Cascioli against don Enrico Righi, parish priest in Bagnoregio, as representative of ministers of religion, for abuse of popular credulity (Art. 661 CP.)and impersonation (Art. 494 CP.).
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An Italian friend says that this case is getting no coverage in Italy.
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Well, that explains why there were no contemporeneous documents on Jesus...
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Old 01-26-2006, 01:26 AM   #68
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Priest sued for asserting existence of Jesus

By NICOLE WINFIELD

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Mr. Cascioli says that for 2,000 years the Roman Catholic Church has been deceiving people by furthering the fable that Christ existed, and says the church has been gaining financially by impersonating as Christ someone by the name of John of Gamala, the son of Judas from Gamala.

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He is quick to stress that he has no problem with Christians' freely professing their faith. Rather, he says in his complaint, he wants to “denounce the abuse that the Catholic Church commits by availing itself of its prestige in order to inculcate – as if being real and historical – facts that are really just inventions.�

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Father Righi argues that the existence of Christ is “unmistakable� because of the substantial historical evidence – both pagan and religious – testifying that he indeed lived.

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He cited many known observers, including non-Christians, who have written about the existence of Jesus, including the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, considered by scholars to be the most important non-Christian source on Christ's existence.

A passage of Josephus's Jewish Antiquities, completed in AD 93, cites the execution in AD 62 of “the brother of Jesus the so-called Christ, James by name.�

Father Righi also cited Pliny the Younger, who in the early second century described a policy of executing Christians who refused to curse Christ, and Tacitus, another writer of the same time who wrote that Jesus was executed by the sentence of Pontius Pilate.

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R. Scott Appleby, a professor of church history at the University of Notre Dame, concurs. There's “no real doubt� that Jesus existed, he said.

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These are the the news stories of the case so far starting from the 27th Jan; -

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/news...archived=False

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2483047.html

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article341349.ece
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So does anyone know what the latest on this case is? I can't find any blogs or sites running up to date info on it, which is a bit odd really since on curiosity value alone I thought it would be being followed more closely.
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