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mountainman · 08-09-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cat59

This gives more info on the graffiti itself and a clearer picture....

Does anyone happen to know an online article which
provides some form of specific information on how this
graffiti is being dated?

Pete Brown

Sven · 08-09-2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainman

Does anyone happen to know an online article which
provides some form of specific information on how this
graffiti is being dated?

I just wanted to ask the same - because the dates seem to be disagreeing by at least 100 years.

Boro Nut · 08-09-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainman

Does anyone happen to know an online article which
provides some form of specific information on how this graffiti is being dated?

I think they just presume it from the wording 'Kilroy woz ere AD 69'

Boro Nut

Rhaedas · 08-09-2006, 11:19 AM

I recall some PBS type special once on Pompeii, showing stuff they found, and at a point they showed the various graffiti. There was nudity, accounting, and politics as well, but the one that always stuck in my mind was "Everyone writes on walls except me."

RED DAVE · 08-10-2006, 06:52 AM

My favorite Pompeian graffito is":

caveat canum

Beware of the dog.

It always brings home the humanity of it all.

RED DAVE

Lucretius · 08-10-2006, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RED DAVE

My favorite Pompeian graffito is":

caveat canum

Beware of the dog.

It always brings home the humanity of it all.

RED DAVE

That would be "Cave Canem " and rather than being a graffitto is in fact a mosaic on the floor of the entrance hall of a villa

http://www.stoa.org/gallery/album66/P6120403

yalla · 08-10-2006, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cat59

This gives more info on the graffiti itself and a clearer picture- not in Pompeii, where there is little to suggest a Christian presence, but in Rome,as already said. There is little Christian in Pompeii other than one or two pieces of graffiti that are debated in terms of their meaning. Plenty of images of Priapus though.

What is the "little" that suggests a Christian presence in Pompeii?
I can recall reading something somewhere about that, apparently not the "Alexamenos" thing but some other.
Anybody know?

RED DAVE · 08-10-2006, 08:56 AM

From RED DAVE:

Quote:

My favorite Pompeian graffito is":

caveat canum

Beware of the dog.

From Lucretius:

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That would be "Cave Canem " and rather than being a graffitto is in fact a mosaic on the floor of the entrance hall of a villa

Fantastic. Thanx. I've been hearing about this one for about 50 years, but i've never seen it. I stand delightfully corrected.

RED DAVE

No Robots · 08-10-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by yalla

What is the "little" that suggests a Christian presence in Pompeii?

In her book, The Christians and the Roman Empire, Marta Sordi mentions a Pompeiian graffito that calls Christians "saevi solones", i.e. merciless Solons (p.33). There is also a monograph entitled The Christian Inscription at Pompeii. See here as well.

mountainman · 08-10-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by No Robots

In her book, The Christians and the Roman Empire, Marta Sordi mentions a Pompeiian graffito that calls Christians "saevi solones", i.e. merciless Solons (p.33). There is also a monograph entitled The Christian Inscription at Pompeii. See here as well.

Readers whould be made aware that the article provides
the following disclaimer:

"there is no undisputable evidence of
(pre-Nicaean) Christianity in Pompeii".

Pete Brown

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08-09-2006, 11:19 AM	#14
Rhaedas Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,440	I recall some PBS type special once on Pompeii, showing stuff they found, and at a point they showed the various graffiti. There was nudity, accounting, and politics as well, but the one that always stuck in my mind was "Everyone writes on walls except me."

08-10-2006, 06:52 AM	#15
RED DAVE Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 10,532	My favorite Pompeian graffito is": caveat canum Beware of the dog. It always brings home the humanity of it all. RED DAVE

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