mindovermyth

I have rarely seen so effective anti-missioning as lvdyou has produced in his/her postings. Who one earth would want to share belief system with such a temperament. He/she could probably secure a seat on Iran's suprime council with the rest of the mullas with this fanatic glow if he/she would just switch from jesus to mohammed. Oh boy, if I were not an unbeliver before I certainly am now. lvdyou, I would not be caught dead sharing your extremely misantropic worldview. :angry:

I hope for your sake that you will eventually will let go of your apparant pent up anger, find your peace with the world and your fellow man, and just.. SNAP OUT OF IT. :love:

lvdyou

Quick stop in,

To prove to you that all other previous missions or ministries or persons were as equally ineffective (despite claims otherwise) as I is the fact that you are still not born again, and that is what I love about God's working is that the choice ultimately is left up to you to decide to enter that doorway of salvation to receive God's blessing of eternal life and grace in giving you a new spirit. Presently you are lost in the old creation. For now you remain an unregenerate hellbound.

Christ is with us forever for He was forever in the past. In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and Word was God (John 1.1). Sure you can pretend He never existed or be a false teaching calling for a new way, but that is exactly what the Thomasines taught in the early centuries. There is nothing new under the sun. All to reject Christ Redeemer and Savior. Oh the vanity of vanities!

Though you can temporarly sweep God's redemption out of your mind, eventually your hatred and hostility towards your creator will come back when you are resurrected at GWT after the millennium and judged leaving you with nothing to say in complete acceptance of why you need to belong in hell forever.

Praise the Lord! That gives Christians such peace and joy in their hearts to know God will allow no such God-haters in eternal life with His children.

Though you may have trust in the hitlers of the world or your self life or Ken Lay of Enron bankrupting a company fabricating 60 billion profits, I am rather on the side of Christ who gives us a quickened spirit to discern, He who was murdered for being sinless. It is as though you murdered him yourself. Indeed you are a bad man, and those who read this will know who this is referring to. God wants to save you but He can not if you do not allow Him to. All men are born into sin and denial will not cover up that truth one iota. Nor concealing the cross will help you experience the joy of the Lord. Men of such quite desparation as depicted by 41,000 adherents in the world is the testimony of the god of this world which is Satan.

Oh how we need to have a discerning spirit. So few are aware that the separation of Christ from his teachings to accept some teachings while calling Jesus a liar is still refusing Christ's redemption, thus not allowing God to enter into your heart and give you His life.

How deceitful is the operations of the good self. Satan is more than happy enough to keep your soul this way if it will preserve it unto hell. Whatever it takes, Satan will utilize that tactic so that you will agree with him in calling Jesus a liar.

How sad a state of affairs this has become!

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not the Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world should be saved through him.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not judged: he that believeth not hath been judged already, because he hath not believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Can you now come to the cross as a helpless sinner and receive Jesus as Lord and Savior? Affirmatively.

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Phishfood

are you trying to drive people away from christianity? you come back with empty words, shaking your fist at us, and not actually addressing anything said to you. just go already. you know you want to.

-Pf

Queen of Swords

If sinning makes me a sinner, performing good deeds makes me a gooder. Also, I'm not helpless. So if the cross existed, which hasn't been proven, I guess I'd be coming to it as a helpful gooder.

But since a queen outranks a lord in the feudal system, Jesus should be the one to come to me. Please pass that on to him if you see him.

mindovermyth

lvdyou quotes:
"leaving you with nothing to say in complete acceptance of why you need to belong in hell forever."
"
Praise the Lord! That gives Christians such peace and joy in their hearts to know God will allow no such God-haters in eternal life with His children."

Hmm lvdyou, what happened to " do unto others" and "love thy neighbor". A trully christian action would probably be to wash your mouth with soap. I do not know if you are funny or just tragic. Endeth this conversation. Byebye now. :wave:

snowyangel

people say Christians are the cause of atheism...but I think its peopel like you who talk to people the way you are..then tell them your Christian that is the cause of so much hatred to the true Christians....and why people are tryign to take all are rights away and telling people like me I can't read a Bible during my lunch time in high school then try to get me suspensed :angry: :banghead:

lvdyou

A man who is about to get hit by a bus, being helped by another from making that mistake is God's will to so help these lost souls.

Before you can be saved, realize you are sending yourself to perdition.

It is someone who loves you that pulls you away from that ongoing bus, but if you continue to press forward to get hit, well then, that is no one's fault but your own.

Christians can only do so much to help you. Where we leave off, you must take up the cross yourself and accept Jesus as Lord and Savior.

An analogy is like the sea shore and the ocean. We can walk up to the sea shore, but the ocean extends far beyond that which would be God's work. You must come to the edge of the sea shore yourself, so that God can take you from there and save you.

Righteously God has no choice to cast you into hell if you in your bad conscience keep calling His Son a liar who gave His life and was murdered for you. What does that really say about you as a person that your conscience does not accept this sacrafice, this inhuman act upon Jesus?

It is like you are condoning murder, calling those who murdered him who did no wrong acceptable. Scarry stuff.

Shame on you!

Dean Anderson

You seem to genuinely not understand our position here.

We are not calling Jesus a liar. We are saying that various humans have written stories talking about someone called "Jesus" and saying that he is the son of Yahweh. It is those stories written by men that we do not believe.

Do you get it? Here's an example for you.

If I tell you that there was once a woman called "Brenda", and she was God's daughter. She was murdered by being hanged, drawn and quartered.

Do you believe that Brenda was God's daughter?

Do you believe that Brenda even existed?

Probably not.

However, the point is not that you are calling Brenda a liar. You are not believing the story about her that I just told you.

That is our position with the story of Jesus.

We are not calling Jesus a liar because we do not believe that he even existed.

So - convince us. Show us that what you say is true. So far, you seem to be assuming that we believe what you say about Jesus but choose to reject him.

Convince us that what you say about Jesus and Yahweh is true, and I for one will not reject him.

Phishfood

oh come off it. why wont you address my other posts? you're obviously reading this...

its interesting that, in the same thread that you are now trying to save our immortal soon-to-be-tormented souls, you also said:

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-Pf

snowyangel

lvdyou...I know you are purposly ignoring me...but if you were a true christian like you said..you would have an answer to my questions...but the way you act towards peopel here..is not christian like at all...and I'm beginnign to seriously doubt you are one...a true christian would not come on a forum and cause trouble like you are...a true christian would not say you believe what I believe and only what I believe or you are not christian :angry: