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Light · 02-25-2004, 04:54 AM

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Oi Light, you want me to hook you up with a couple of Egyptology professors? You know, people who have actually STUDIED Egypt? I'd pay to see the results. Then again, I'd have to pay to get the professors to waste time on you but it'd be worth it...

What are they studying? I used to live there. But that was a long time ago.

Why should I have to study that which I already know?

andy_d · 02-25-2004, 05:37 AM

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Not at all Andy, The Military is in the REgulation business.

No, I think you'll find the military trains it's people in the arts of extreme violence. The one I was in did anyway.

You said you were in the navy. Tell me, did they ever train you to use a weapon? What did you think they did that for?

Corona688 · 02-25-2004, 06:55 AM

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This is God's planet and He will have it ALL done His way or not at all.
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There is as much evidence for God as there is for Hank. I repeat, give me some evidence. ANY evidence. Don't you have any?

Why do you need evidence?

I have told you why I need evidence many times, but for the sake of clarity, I will repeat it once more: I require evidence, because I see NO evidence at all for the existence of a deity.

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Is it not obvious?

No! If it were obvious, I wouldn't be ASKING you to point it out! So stop dithering, and point it out already!

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He is everywhere so why not look for Him yourself.

I have. I found absolutely nothing at all.

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He could be your neighbour.

No, light, my neighbor is not god. I asked him, and he said 'no'.

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He could be Me or He could be My Neighbour.

All right, then. Are you god, light? Does your neighbor say he is god?

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It might depend on how highly you REgard each other. Try thinking it out for yourself.

Here's a hint, light. I am not looking for 'god', as in 'the useless metaphor that doesn't mean anything'. I am looking for 'the thing that you claim created the universe'. My neighbor did not create the universe. You did not create the universe. Your neighbor did not create the universe. You say someone did. Where the heck is it?

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What would make this planet a Heavenly place to live and what sort of Eternal beings would YOU like to live with? Imagine Egypt, before the flood, a Garden paradise.

Hot, humid, full of bugs. I'll pass.

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Is this "Hank" a ham shank, does he drive a tank, is he a yank and just what is he yanking?

Why, hank is your god, of course. In other words, the sum total of the evidence you have presented is insufficient. Insufficient? It's completely absent! Saying 'it is obvious, end of story' is the most arrogant thing you could do; I am asking you an honest question, where is this god of yours, and all you give me is static and useless metaphors. Your god isn't scientific at all. It's plain old superstition just like every other fictional deity.

Light · 02-25-2004, 11:47 AM

Corona, I am NOT superstitious about God and I have no need to be.

It looks like "Hank" is your "god".

I ... NEVER ... kiss anyone for anything except love, and I have NO "master" either.

I only kiss people I love within in my OWN immediate family.

NEVER anyone else.

Sounds like your your "Hank" is running a protection racket.

Be quite sure that he is NOT allowed to.

Corona688 · 02-25-2004, 02:13 PM

How typical that you would answer the one thing in my post that was of no importance. Go back and answer the other stuff.

Light · 02-25-2004, 03:19 PM

"It's plain old superstition just like every other fictional deity."

So what do you believe in, and what are you trying to achieve?

As you seem to WANT to have a war why not have one in your own country?

We would like OUR infrastructure to remain intact.

Or you could simply REgulate your OWN country to become self-sufficient instead of plundering others countries.

You are just too greedy.

We country folks just detest you city slickers for ruining the entire planet.

And to think that we work to feed you.

You paved Paradise and put up a pile of junk called concrete.

Archie Bunker clones is all you are.

Corona688 · 02-25-2004, 05:06 PM

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So what do you believe in, and what are you trying to achieve?

Non sequitor. Answer my questions.

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As you seem to WANT to have a war

Assertion contrary to fact. Answer my questions.

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why not have one in your own country?

Because war stinks, and I don't want to happen anywhere. Which again has absolutely nothing to do with my questions. Please answer them.

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We would like OUR infrastructure to remain intact.

Non-sequitor. Please answer my questions.

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Or you could simply REgulate your OWN country to become self-sufficient instead of plundering others countries.

I am not in charge of my own country. Neither can you claim any moral high ground, since you are not in charge of yours. Answer my questions.

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You are just too greedy.

Assertion contrary to fact. Also has nothing to do with my questions. Please answer them.

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We country folks just detest you city slickers for ruining the entire planet.

Right, agriculture doesn't pollute. Tell me another one. No, on second thought, don't tell me another one, answer my questions instead.

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And to think that we work to feed you.

We? I thought you were the new napoleon, not a farmer.

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You paved Paradise and put up a pile of junk called concrete.

I did no such thing. Stop telling lies about me, and answer my questions.

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Archie Bunker clones is all you are.

Assertion contrary to fact. Please answer my questions.

andy_d · 02-26-2004, 08:11 AM

I wouldn't mind mine answered either, you know

Light · 02-26-2004, 09:37 AM

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No, I think you'll find the military trains it's people in the arts of extreme violence. The one I was in did anyway.

You said you were in the Navy. Tell me, did they ever train you to use a weapon? What did you think they did that for?

Professional Armies train people to be disciplined and respectful and not violent.

Gangsters and terrorists are the really lawless violent people.

Still it is MUCH more peaceful in Australia.

Royal Artillery, Royal Greenjackets, (Light Infantry) (For committing infanticide was the "joke" Territorial Army (Home Guard) the SBS and the Merchant Navy.

For defence.

I have helped make weapons too. For Interarms in Virginia.

After all of this you learn to want to live in peace, for the sake of love.

Loving IS better than fighting and killing.

Believe me.

Light · 02-26-2004, 09:47 AM

Corona688

Is your neighbour immortal? He'll probably say no too.

One Creator and many Who are One with Him.

No Man is an Island and everyone needs Friends.

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02-25-2004, 11:47 AM	#104
Light Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Here, There & Everywhere Posts: 1,253	Corona, I am NOT superstitious about God and I have no need to be. It looks like "Hank" is *your* "god". I ... NEVER ... kiss anyone for anything except love, and I have NO "master" either. I only kiss people I love within in my OWN immediate family. NEVER anyone else. Sounds like your *your* "Hank" is running a protection racket. Be quite sure that he is NOT allowed to.

02-25-2004, 02:13 PM	#105
Corona688 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hiding from Julian ;) Posts: 5,368	How typical that you would answer the one thing in my post that was of no importance. Go back and answer the other stuff.

02-25-2004, 03:19 PM	#106
Light Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Here, There & Everywhere Posts: 1,253	"It's plain old superstition just like every other fictional deity." So what do you believe in, and what are you trying to achieve? As you seem to WANT to have a war why not have one in your own country? We would like OUR infrastructure to remain intact. Or you could simply REgulate your OWN country to become self-sufficient instead of plundering others countries. You are just too greedy. We country folks just detest you city slickers for ruining the entire planet. And to think that we work to feed you. You paved Paradise and put up a pile of junk called concrete. Archie Bunker clones is all you are.

02-26-2004, 08:11 AM	#108
andy_d Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: umop apisbn Posts: 568	I wouldn't mind mine answered either, you know

02-26-2004, 09:47 AM	#110
Light Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Here, There & Everywhere Posts: 1,253	Corona688 Is your neighbour immortal? He'll probably say no too. One Creator and many Who are One with Him. No Man is an Island and everyone needs Friends.

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