DBT

Yes and I reckon that if the old Boy really did exist you would chew Him up pretty bad.

And I still find hard to comprehend that people can take these loopy religious stories to be the truth.

coltsfan

I believe that heaven and hell are spiritual places we place ourself. Our physical bodies no longer exists there and our form would be a mental self-image. Therefore, If you felt comfortable with you image at death or a 30 or whatever that is what you would look like.

DBT

There is nothing in the bible that supports that claim
That is more of a new age idea about the astral/mental planes

Yahzi

This begs the question of what a 7 month old fetus' self-image is.

And why do we care what you want to be true? When you say you believe something, you're supposed to mean more than just "here's what I hope is true although I have no evidence whatsoever to indicate it is."

If you replace the word "believe" with the word "hope," then how does your post change? Well, it becomes obviously a personal statement of your own rather unimaginative and shallow desires, and consequently not worth discussing. The statement only looks like part of an argument when you equivocate on the word belief.

I swear to dog, it is starting to appear to me that the only argument religious people ever actually offer depend on equivocation over words.

rfwu

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=040228

He makes a good point.

Taffer

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DBT
[B]I quite like this analogy. After all, sheep are stupid and have to be driven, whereas goats are intelligent and have to be led.

coltsfan

If you dont care then why did was the question asked. I did not asked the question. I answered it. I understand it was not to your level of satisfaction, but then nothing would be. I would say that for the amount of talking about christian belief that goes on here you must care or why bother talking about it.

Cojana

This are the correct answer, the Earth are a Heavenly paradise, I have been to the Grand Canyon, thats all the personal beauty,I have been privy to, some of you have seen the wonders of this world,that are truly Heavenly existence, as far as I am concerned , I am in Heaven while alive, the real Heaven,! and like it or not Hell are a place no one will escape, we all wind down in Hell, but don't worry,you won't care,because you'll be Dead!!!

DBT

We are simply discussing your claim.
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I believe that heaven and hell are spiritual places we place ourself. Our physical bodies no longer exists there and our form would be a mental self-image.
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Please present some evidence from the bible to back your view that this could possibly be valid christian doctrine.

Or for that matter present evidence from any source to give us a reason to think your belief may be valid

DBT

http://www.biblestudy.org/question/shepgoat.html