Jeffrey Gibson

Good for her (even though you've missed the bit about her using the Old English term l�*ðe, which, as she knows, is an adjective that underlies the English word lithe and means "soft, gentle, meek, mild, serene, benign, gracious, pleasant, sweet" and is therefor hardly a component element in the coptic word LIYRGOHL. Don't believe me? Write her at faith.wallis at mcgill.ca).

But you claimed that the term was the title of a day, not a season, and you also claimed that Bede tells us "how it [Lida] was a very important natural event on the longest day of the year in the northern hemisphere, the day of midsummer or Litha as it was known to the celts".

So where within Bede's note about months do we find him saying that Lida was

a Celtic term

an natural event that occurred on the longest day of the year

something that was a very important event to the Celts?

You hadn't actually read Bede before you made your claims about what he said about Lida, had you.

In any case, all of this is moot, since as one of the sources on the Acts of Peter and the 12 who, you cite, but obviously (and typically) haven't read, notes, the name does appear elsewehere, and it's clear from those appearances in which Lithargoel is noted to be one of Gabriel's angelic princes, that first element is, as I noted, derived from the Greek word for stone and that the second element, which is bi partate (go-el), is like Uri-el, and Rahpa-el, and Gabrie-el a theophoric, and has nothing to do with the Hebrew word for redeemer which is a participle of the Hebrew verb gaal

Besides that, if your derivation were anywhere near correct, the word would mean not "the one who redeems a (particular) season/month/day", but "gentle redeemer", since l�*ðe is an adjective and not a noun. (you'' aslo have to tell us how lithar is a genitive construction, assuming you know what that means).

Jeffrey

Jeffrey Gibson

Nope. It's all forged in the 5th century.

Jeffrey

mountainman

Does anyone have any doubt remaining as to the validity of this general claim on the basis of the evidence supplied?

Best wishes,


Pete

mountainman

Jeffrey,

In your opinion, who or what does the man on the dock holding the palm leaf represent, what does the city in the midst of the sea represent, why do its inhabitants "endure" and call it "habitation", and why was it surrounded by waves and high walls?

Best wishes,


Pete

Jeffrey Gibson

Where within Bede's note about what the English people call their months do we find him saying that Lida was

a Celtic term

an natural event that occurred on the longest day of the year

something that was a very important event to the Celts?

Jeffrey

mountainman

Dear Jeffrey,

Open up the window and look outside. Do you see that yellow ball of fire in the sky move over your dwellings on a daily basis. That is called the sun. We do not need Bede to tell us that it is the sun, and neither do we need Bede to tell us that there are a few days each year when that sun appears to be at a turning point in its cycle between mid summer and mid winter. I hope you understand this Jeffrey. This is not a matter for a classicist scholar such as yourself. It may be a little out of your area of expertise.

What Bede provides, is the name given to that month of the year by the english people (which I understand to be some form of high german at that point in time in the 8th century). Celtic is the name of the people of briton, gaul, germany, etc in general before Romans imported them as slaves and subservients in the Roman empire. The translator of Bede calls this month Litha, and it should be noted that the name is applied to two consecutive months, not just one month, in which period falls the mid summer festival.

I am glad you agree with the translator Jeffrey. We know that your opinion of the greek translation of Coneybeare's Life of Apollonius of Tyana wherein he refers many times to the priests of Asclepius.. Did you see that comment about Lithargoel as a type of Jewish Asclepius in the collation of commentaries that I have cited in this thread?

Best wishes,



Pete

mountainman

And Cyril forged the coins as well as the inscriptions, did he Jeffrey? That's quite alot of work. Did he bury the coins as well?

Best wishes,


Pete

Jeffrey Gibson

[QUOTE=mountainman;5490354]
Yes, but this is not what you said he provided us. You said that Bede specifically spoke of ""how [Lida] was a very important natural event on the longest day of the year in the northern hemisphere, the day of midsummer or Litha as it was known to the celts".

So you have changed your tune. Why is that, one wonders. Couldn't have anything to do with your not having read Bede before you made your claim about what he recounted, could it, and relied instead for your "knowledge" of Bede and Lida upon some neo pagan webs site whose mis use of Bede you swallowed credulously because it confirmed what you wanted to believe?

And now one wonders where this understanding -- which is abouit as good as your original understanding of what Bede says about Lida --comes from.

People of where?

Umm, seems to me that I told you this in this message of mine to you when you were still insisting that Bede used Lida to refer to a day.

Someone translated Coneyberare's English edition of The Life into Greek??

Is this something along the lines of the translation of the LXX into Greek that you claimed Origen made and included in his Hexapla?

Jeffrey

Jeffrey Gibson

Far less than what you attribute to Eusebius as having undertaken.

Sure. Do you have a carbon dating of the coins?

Jeffrey

Jeffrey Gibson

[QUOTE=mountainman;5490354]
Yes, but this is not what you said he provided us. You said that Bede specifically spoke of ""how [Lida] was a very important natural event on the longest day of the year in the northern hemisphere, the day of midsummer or Litha as it was known to the celts".

So you have changed your tune. Why is that one wonders. Couldn't have anything to do with your not having read Bede before you made your claim about what he recounted, could it, and relied instead for your "knowledge" of Bede and Lida upon some neo pagan webs site?.

And now one wonders where this understanding -- which is abouit as good as your original understanding of what Bede says about Lida --comes from.

People of where?

Umm, seems to me that I told you this in this message of mine to you when you were still insisting that Bede used Lida to refer to a day.

Someone translated Coneyberare's English edition of The Life into Greek??

Is this something along the lines of the translation of the LXX into Greek that you claimed Origen made and included in his Hexapla?

Jeffrey