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Old 12-01-2004, 12:20 PM   #1
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Me again,

Here to ask you about what do you think of this statement:

“God foreknew the Fall, so He programmed creatures with the information for attack and defense features, which they would need in a cursed world. This information was “switched on�? at the Fall.�?

This is something that Carl Wieland have uttered in his book Refuting Compromise. I've Seen a rebuttal to Carl's book in a website known as Answers in Creation and old earth creationist's website and that's where I got that saying from. My view is that this saying implies that God has set the animals up for the fall when he gives them all the traits needed to survive in a "fallen" world. If God did foreknew the fall, then why did He do nothing to prevent it from happening, if he did not want it to happen in the first place? What a warped, deluded, and idiotic, stupid, dogma young earth creationism is!

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Me again,

Here to ask you about what do you think of this statement:

“God foreknew the Fall, so He programmed creatures with the information for attack and defense features, which they would need in a cursed world. This information was “switched on�? at the Fall.�?

This is something that Carl Wieland have uttered in his book Refuting Compromise. I've Seen a rebuttal to Carl's book in a website known as Answers in Creation and old earth creationist's website and that's where I got that saying from. My view is that this saying implies that God has set the animals up for the fall when he gives them all the traits needed to survive in a "fallen" world. If God did foreknew the fall, then why did He do nothing to prevent it from happening, if he did not want it to happen in the first place? What a warped, deluded, and idiotic, stupid, dogma young earth creationism is!

What do you think?

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I think that's just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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Yet another epicycle.
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Old 12-03-2004, 05:21 AM   #4
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it makes God out to be a real mean sonofabitch. some of the killing mechanisms are downright horrific. He must have really enjoyed designing them to come up with increasingly inventive and cruel ways of slaughter.

to be honest though, this makes the whole setup no different fom making an unfallen world in the first place, replete with death and suffering. It still makes God an architect of pain.
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"Attack and defense features"? Attack and defense features?! Jet Black makes the understatement of the year when he says some of the killing mechanisms are downright horrific! Look into phorid flies. Or... or... hell, just check out any book on parasites, and see Winace's Organisms that look designed page.
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