chapka

What on earth are you talking about? Are you claiming that this actually happened? And that it makes the children of those offspring "devils" in some way?

As has been pointed out, this is not what "grafting" means in any other context, and it doesn't describe anything that plausibly ever happened, except through natural selection. And "hundreds of years" would not be nearly enough, through natural variation where white genes did not exist, to get to stereotypical "white" skin.

So, in an attempt to get back on topic, let's review your arguments for why Jesus was black:

1. All gods everywhere are "obviously" black if you look at them. This is your best argument, because it's theoretically possible that you could provide evidence for it. However, as far as I can tell, you've instead just asserted it and made appeals to authority ("it's obvious that..."); you haven't produced any comparative studies of representations of gods and humans in early art, for instance. No evidence; argument fails.

2. A particular coin shows Jesus with short, tightly curled hair. Since the coin is not contemporary, it doesn't prove anything, but even if it were, short, tightly curled hair is a stereotypical Jewish trait as well as a stereotypical black trait, not to mention common throughout the Mediterranean. No evidence; argument fails.

3. Everybody is black. If you define "black" broadly enough, every human being that ever lived is black. In addition to being a tautology, it assumes that Jesus actually existed and wasn't made up by his mystery cult. But even assuming that "Jesus" was based on a real person, the proposition is still logically worthless. Argument fails.

Let me know if I missed anything. But as far as I can tell, you've made an assumption and then given absolutely no evidence for it.

I understand that you'd really like Jesus to be black. Who knows; given that the concept of race didn't exist at the time in the way we think of it, maybe Jesus' father was a black Roman soldier who had an affair with or (more likely for a Roman soldier) raped Jesus' mother. But there's really no evidence on either side. Why pretend there is? Point out the racism in people's assumptions that Jesus was looked like them. That's legitimate, especially when people make him into a blonde (which is much less likely than that he was black). Don't make racist assumptions of your own. They just make you look bad.

Enda80

15His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace
That had not occured to me; but actually bronze in a furnace would look a bright red.

Philippe*

If you take the Bible as the Truth, Jesus has God for father, and Mary for mother, so :

1. He is "half-jew"
2. Mary's DNA was not involved, she just bore the child, and he can be a jew or not
3. He is jew, God has used DNA with "jewish characteristics" between 0>x<or=100%
4. something else

Moreover if he has resurrected and if he is God, he can be and look like he wants.

Philippe

Enda80

The virgin birth as in vitro fertilization? Interesting.

mongrel

Since this thread had been dead for eight months until its resurrection yesterday, I'm going to close it. Feel free to start a new thread on the subject in the appropriate forum.