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Old 12-10-2005, 09:04 PM   #81
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No where did you get that from? I was saying in response to your question about the entire text being revised this could not happen. Because the text was never all in the same place to be revised! We have the original New Testament canon today just as it was written 70-90 A.D. We also have the exact same readings and in fact they are without error.

Leader:
Okay, what did the Roman Editors ever Change for us? Nothing, Right?!

Apikorus:
Uh, how about "Matthew" and "Luke" essentially being "Mark" with changed Theologies giving the Christian Bible the appearence of multiple attestation and significant agreement to its basic story when none really existed and making the whole question of Textual Editing misleading?

Leader:
Uh, well, that goes without saying. But what else did the Roman Editors ever Change for us? Nothing, Right?!

Johnny:
Well they did Forge a resurrection sighting to the original Gospel "Mark" which contradicts the primary theme that no one in Jesus' time believed he was resurrected and provides the best potential evidence that Jesus was resurrected as opposed to a mere Empty Tomb.

Leader:
Well, okay, I'll grant you that. But what else did the Roman Editors ever Change for us? Nothing, Right?!

Steve:
What about The Johannine Comma which everyone agrees is not original and provides the only clear support to one of the most Fundamental Orthodox Christian beliefs, the trinity?

Leader:
Oh yea, right. Forgot about that. But what else did the Roman Editors ever Change for us? Nothing, Right?!

John:
And don't forget fraudently adding "son" to the start of "Mark" to try and hide the difference between Jesus literally being son of god in "Matthew" but only figuratively son of god in "Mark".

Leader:
I'll give you that one too. But what else?

JoeWallack:
What about Christian translators consistently mistranslating "The Holy Spirit" for phrases either lacking a piece and/or having a different order to dishonestly support the Concept of spirit as a separate entity? (All the Skeptics turn and give JW a look). Okay, I'll shut up.

Leader:
So, except for deceptively redoing the Original Gospel (twice), forging a resurrection sighting to the original Gospel, adding phony support for the trinity Concept and fraudulently adding "son" to the start of the Original Gospel, what else did the Roman Editors ever Change for us? Nothing, Right?!

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A person who combines the judicial functions of Minos, Rhadamanthus and Aeacus, but is placable with an obolus; a severely virtuous censor, but so charitable withal that he tolerates the virtues of others and the vices of himself; who flings about him the splintering lightning and sturdy thunders of admonition till he resembles a bunch of firecrackers petulantly uttering his mind at the tail of a dog; then straightway murmurs a mild, melodious lay, soft as the cooing of a donkey intoning its prayer to the evening star. Master of mysteries and lord of law, high-pinnacled upon the throne of thought, his face suffused with the dim splendors of the Transfiguration, his legs intertwisted and his tongue a-cheek, the editor spills his will along the paper and cuts it off in lengths to suit. And at intervals from behind the veil of the temple is heard the voice of the foreman demanding three inches of wit and six lines of religious meditation, or bidding him turn off the wisdom and whack up some pathos.

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as a fundamentalist, I still await that smoking gun proof of biblical error.....66 books, hundreds of authors and contributors...thiousands of years....yet no smoking gun.....hmmmmm
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Well, we've already discussed two errors here. How would you explain 2 Sam 21:19? A scribal error?

By the way, can you prove that there is no error in the the Atrahasis Epic? The Iliad? The Dead Sea Scrolls? The Qur'an?
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as a fundamentalist, I still await that smoking gun proof of biblical error.....66 books, hundreds of authors and contributors...thiousands of years....yet no smoking gun.....hmmmmm
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as a fundamentalist, I still await that smoking gun proof of biblical error.....66 books, hundreds of authors and contributors...thiousands of years....yet no smoking gun.....hmmmmm
It seems to me we never really settled what happened on this day:

JOSHUA10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

10:14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.

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Well, we've already discussed two errors here. How would you explain 2 Sam 21:19? A scribal error?

By the way, can you prove that there is no error in the the Atrahasis Epic? The Iliad? The Dead Sea Scrolls? The Qur'an?
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It seems to me we never really settled what happened on this day:

JOSHUA10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

10:14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.

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While I agree 100% that the author of that line believed that the sun stopped rotating about the earth instead of the reverse, I still see how it can easily be seen as figurative language. Even today many people would make such a statement. But what strikes me as far more absurd than the misguided astronomy is the idea that God would stop the sun so that one group of savages could finish slaughtering another.
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If God really had any sense, He would beam his inerrant word directly into the brains of all newborns, thereby bypassing the thorny problems caused by scribes, translators, interpreters and other fallible humans. Then, instead of wasting our time arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, we could spend more time making the world a better place.

Of course, God has no sense.
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If God really had any sense, He would beam his inerrant word directly into the brains of all newborns, thereby bypassing the thorny problems caused by scribes, translators, interpreters and other fallible humans. Then, instead of wasting our time arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, we could spend more time making the world a better place.

Of course, God has no sense.
My, but you are stubborn.

Belief, where there's proof, is not worth much.

The idea is to believe even though there's no evidence to support your belief. That's called faith.

To believe in the face of contradictory evidence is best of all. As Tertullian said, "I believe because it is absurd."

That kind of faith moves you right up to the front ranks.
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And I have faith that Nicole Kidman loves me with all her heart, and fantasizes about me and my God-given parts on a nightly basis. No wonder she divorced the Scientologist.
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