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Starboy · 06-07-2004, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gospelog2

This is your chance to have an intelligent loving conversation instead of further banter. All it takes is one person to show he has read this link with consideration and a spirit of discernment in the depths of all its parts.

Last chance or I will go. If there is one, just one, I will stay.

Both sides have to engage in "an intelligent loving conversation" in order for there to be one. Your very first post was insulting and derogatory. You got what you deserved.

Starboy

Starboy · 06-07-2004, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by doubtingthomas

You probably have met Christians like that, I have as well. I don't think Christians claim to be more holy than others, and you're right they aren't, but I think for the most part their intentions are in the right place. Many of them that I have met lead a life that to me indicates a true belief.

If I intended to construct working electrical circuits and I studied the subject of electrical engineering and lo and behold I am now constructing electrical circuits then I would say that the content and act of study of that subject has efficacy. However as you point out the efficacy of studying Christianity is no better than not studying it. Therefore there is no knowledge or training with any effectiveness in it or every person claiming to study it is stupid or they are a liar and are just faking it. Take your pick.

Starboy

Warthur · 06-07-2004, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hyndis

Interestingly enough, there's almost as much of us heathens as Hindus.

Though Christians still outnumber us 2:1.

It'd be interesting to see another version of that chart which included a big, fat, probably-well-over-50% wedge of people who believe in a religion but don't take it especially seriously.

Warthur · 06-07-2004, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Magus55

I claimed 4+ billion who find Christianity useful in terms of aspects, doctrines, values etc. from Christianity be incorporated into their life. The original position said nothing about those who are Christian, it only stated those who find it useful is 2 billion. Yes there are 2 billion actual Christians, but there are more than 2 billion who find it useful in some regard.

Well, Christianity borrowed a lot of concept from various other Mediterranean religions which had nothing to do with Judaism. Does that mean those religions are legit?

Warthur · 06-07-2004, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Magus55

How do you figure? God doesn't need a condition to love someone. I'm just so amused at how atheists assume that because God supposedly loves humanity, that He should just let them do whatever they want and screw the laws.

It's kinda what "unconditional" means....

Tuvar Ane Ingolenen · 06-07-2004, 08:09 AM

I dont reject Christ, he's as good a fictional person as many others.

( what do you mean by 'reject' exacly? )

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Originally Posted by Gospelog2

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...37#post1640637

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showpost.php...&postcount=147

Here is your evidence

Reading this makes me wonder how you would define 'evidence'.

ElectEngr · 06-07-2004, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gospelog2

List me your top 3 reasons for refusing Christ.

No!

Later,
ElectEngr

dado · 06-07-2004, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lpetrich

The Song of Solomon is sometimes "explained" as a metaphor for loving God or something similar

yuck! that text is full of references to oral sex! which is admittedly fun on an interpersonal level - but with G-d?! not to mention with passages like...

Your breasts are like two fawns..

...you kinda have to wonder which of the tri-unity had the man-tits.

dado · 06-07-2004, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervy Hobbit Fancier

...since his own son Jesus broke it [Shabbat] and declared that it was not important.

i'm not familiar with any incident in the x'ian texts that documents this. do you have a chapter:verse reference?

capsaicin67 · 06-07-2004, 09:09 AM

List me your top 3 reasons for refusing Christ.

1)I just want to be friends.

2)I make it a rule to never be intimate with one of the boss's kids.

3)I don't swing that way.

4)It's gross---he's dead.

5)I already told someone that I would do something in eternity.

6)I'm getting my haircut.

7)I have to study.

8)I won't be here.

9)I'm seeing someone else.

10)He's too nice, you know what I mean? He's just way too good for me. I think he should go find someone that he really deserves and that can give him what he wants and make him feel really special.

11)The problem is me, not him-----really. I wish him all the best with his religion/salvation/damnation thingy. I really do.

Wait, that's more than 3......

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capsaicin67 Contributor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gold coast plain, sea, scrubland, mountain range. Posts: 20,955	List me your top 3 reasons for refusing Christ. 1)I just want to be friends. 2)I make it a rule to never be intimate with one of the boss's kids. 3)I don't swing that way. 4)It's gross---he's dead. 5)I already told someone that I would do something in eternity. 6)I'm getting my haircut. 7)I have to study. 8)I won't be here. 9)I'm seeing someone else. 10)He's too nice, you know what I mean? He's just way too good for me. I think he should go find someone that he really deserves and that can give him what he wants and make him feel really special. 11)The problem is me, not him-----really. I wish him all the best with his religion/salvation/damnation thingy. I really do. Wait, that's more than 3......

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