cybergeek

As to why the catholic church tried to exterminate catharism
is too obvious to even answer.
For the same reason why they tried to eliminate unsuccessfully
the protestant heresy or any other heresy(faith) that did not
agree with theirs.

The official church did not want any competition from other beliefs.
It's too bad that catholicism itself wasn't wiped out by
something else.
There's a good chance we would have been better off without it.

never been there

For some great pics of the scene of the crime, here's a Castles of France site.

"Diaporama" means slide show. I think there's an English-language version of the pages - look for a little Union Jack/Stars & Stripes button.

sullster

Thankyou all for your imformative replies to my question about the Cathars. There are so many knowledgable people using this forum and it shows.

The Cathars considered the world to be something created by the forces of evil. It seems to me that as the Catholic Inquisitor-murderers were lighting the sticks on fire under the stakes holding Cathars, such a viewpoint must have seemed all too true to the soon to be burnt Cathars.

The Catholic church of the 12th and 13 th centuries was evil indeed. Life was hell.

sullster

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Amos
If it was I don't see why you would call it a Catholic Inquisition.




Maybe because the Inquisitors were Catholic Dominican or Fransiscan monks maybe? The pope,(he is Catholic you know), ordered the creation of the Inquisition, perhaps.? All of Europe at the time was under the control of the Roman Catholic Church, possibly?

I guess I call it the "Catholic Inquistition" for the above reasons and for the fact that I tire of blaming the Spanish for it,(no one expects it, say no more, say no more).

Amos

Missed them all sullster.

France was a kingdom and Luis IX was responsible for this crusade and he needed the wisdom of the Catholic church to help him out. Naturally, they were happy to help him out and I wonder if they got paid for it.

Amos

Did you read that one where the Polish didn't want a [Billy Graham style] crusade because when they 'get saved' they can't drink no more beer? I thought that was rather smart and it seems to me that they knew alot more about this stuff then we ever will.

sullster

Amos, are you disappointed that there is no Inquisition around that could round up Billy Graham and his fundies and put them on trial for heresy? I bet you do.

I am no friend of Graham and fundyism but the idea of them all being annihilated by a Catholic Inquisition is revolting.

Put your attitudes back into the 15th or 16th centuries and I can envision you lighting the sticks on fire under the heretic Graham.

Pity, your church just doesn't have the enforcement powers it once had.

Amos

Graham has been burning at the foot of the cross for at least fourty years with the never-ending desire to ascend but it is his "sin nature" that keeps him down. Just ask him, or ask anybody at the Baptist board and they'll tell you just that.

The sticks are his own "brushwood" and "hot" bible passages ignite the fire each and every day just as they did for "the Children of Israel" way back then. I think that the odd one still flares up today and Catholics are just lucky that they don't get blamed for that because they call it "spontaneous combustion."

You probably know that we have our "incorruptable" saints and that should tell you enough about the difference between these two.

Amos

Oh, and in case you wonder, the "brushwood" is the self aquired righteousness and Billy sure has lots of that.

sullster

Come out and scream it Amos. You want to say that Graham is a Cathar! Burn the Cathar! Catholicism is inerrant and the Cathar is a heretic. Yell it out loud.

I think all you religious types of whatever sect are nuts, but I don't want to burn anyone at the stake. Just don't come for me that is all.