beanpie

(Black) Muslims, from West Africa, visted America, A MINIMUM of 600 years BEFORE Colombus "discovered" America. They converted the Native American.

You are free to dispute this info, if possible.

http://www.themodernreligion.com/ht/...-columbus.html

http://www.victorynewsmagazine.com/A...heAmericas.htm

Hazel-rah

See: Tallahassee online and A to Z: Alabama for origins of these names.

Occam's Razor and all that...

Waning Moon Conrad

It has been pointed out by a fellow homeboy, a veritable titan and shining jewel in the firmament of scholarship that the person refuting the outrageous allegation is the person upon whom the burden of proof rests.

Tallahassee equals "Allah shall deliver you sometime in the future". The burden of proof cannot be borne by the detractors and naysayers here as we clearly see within Tallahasee, the word Allah.

What far too many people don't realize is that the word Washington actually means "God shall whiten the righteous".

DeeSey as in D.C. in a quaint yet important dialect of the medieval Finnish language known as Bovineordure actually means "starting yesterday".

And man, I don't know about you Beanpoo but that makes me kinda nervous.

andy_d

Hmmm, i'd put this one in the same catagory as the claim that Tenochtitlan means "City of Enoch"

Dr. Jagan Mohan

And I though Alabama meant 'All Bums'!!

How many sounds can a Man produce from his vocal cords? And how many combinations thereof?

Somewhere somehow, some sounds have to been common amongst all Human kind...

The best fools think that similarity in sounding proves a connection.

'You are a Martian'. Refute THIS!!

premjan

click sounds are only found among one specific group of african tribes. so I think we can trace the source of all click sounds to this group (maybe).

Hazel-rah

I've heard that, before they become "hard-wired" for their native language, babies can produce every sound in every language--including the African clicks, that cheesy French "r," and that throat-clearing glottal in Arabic. After listening to my nieces, I believe it.

It's not the source of the sounds; it's who thought it should have linguistic meaning and who thought it sounded like something you should use to call your dog.

beanpie

Native American Muslims-BETCHA DIDN'T KNOW


WRITTEN BY A NATIVE AMERICAN

"Have you ever wondered what the name
Tallahassee means? It means that He Allah will deliver you sometime
in the future. "



Native American Muslims
The Message, July 1996

My name is Mahir Abdal-Razzaaq El and I am a Cherokee Blackfoot
American Indian who is Muslim. I am known as Eagle Sun Walker. I
serve as a Pipe Carrier Warrior for the Northeastern Band of Cherokee
Indians in New York City.
There are other Muslims in our group. For the most part, not many
people are aware of the Native American contact with Islam that began
over one thousand years ago by some of the early Muslim travelers who
visited us. Some of these Muslim travelers ended up living among our
people.

For most Muslims and non-Muslims of today, this type of information
is unknown and has never been mentioned in any of the history books.
There are many documents, treaties, legislation and resolutions that
were passed between 1600s and 1800s that show that Muslims were in
fact here and were very active in the comunities in which they lived.
Treaties such as Peace and Friendship that was signed on the Delaware
River in the year 1787 bear the signatures of Abdel-Khak and Muhammad
Ibn Abdullah. This treaty detailes our continued right to exist as a
community in the areas of commerce, maritime shipping, current form
of government at that time which was in accordance with Islam.
According to a federal court case from the Continental Congress, we
help put the breath of life in to the newly framed constitution. All
of the documents are presently in the National Archives as well as
the Library of Congress.

If you have access to records in the state of South Carolina, read
the Moors Sundry Act of 1790. In a future article, Inshallah, I will
go in to more details about the various tribes, their languages; in
which some are influenced by Arabic, Persian, Hebrew words. Almost
all of the tribes vocabulary include the word Allah. The traditional
dress code for Indian women includes the kimah and long dresses. For
men, standard fare is turbans and long tops that come down to the
knees. If you were to look at any of the old books on Cherokee
clothing up until the time of 1832, you will see the men wearing
turbans and the women wearing long head coverings. The last Cherokee
chief who had a Muslim name was Ramadhan Ibn Wati of the Cherokees in
1866.

Cities across the United States and Canada bear names that are of
Indian and Islamic derivation. Have you ever wondered what the name
Tallahassee means? It means that He Allah will deliver you sometime
in the future.

Viti

beanpie. You cannot copy and paste whole articles without citations. You know this, you have been told this.

As for the information. One Muslim Indian does not represent all of the Cherokee Nation. I'll bet they have something different to say.

The Moors Sundry act had nothing to do with Muslim Native Americans. Some Moorish people, from Morocco, were captured in Africa and sold as slaves in the US. http://foclark.tripod.com/gypsy/journal.htm

Viti

And again, the Peace and Friendship treaty was with the the Emporer of Morrocco and his representatives...of course they had Moorish names. What does that have to do with Native Americans?

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/di...y/bar1786t.htm

beanpie, if you wish to be taken seriously, you should research the information you are being fed by the Nation of Islam. Remember, they have an agenda. I found the 2 treaties mentioned in the article in 2 seconds on Google...you can do the same.