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Old 01-28-2005, 08:23 AM   #21
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John Paul is a creationist that is not Christian. That is all I know from his bio.

He says he is not a Christian, but I think that is just a 'witnessing' tool. He once claimed to be Muslim, but when an actual Muslim started inquiring about the Koran, he suddenly clammed up.
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Old 01-28-2005, 08:32 AM   #22
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I'm pretty sure he is JP from EvC, and is not Salvador. I saw a claim, I forget where, that John Paul is ID's Bulldog (or something like that) at AARN. I dunno about that one.
I did a search at both places for the wrod 'culled', one of John Paul's favorites. He is about the only person I have seen use it. IDBD uses it as prolifically as JP.



IDs Bulldog, from ARN:
"Does ANY evolutionist have any positive evidence that random mutations culled by natural selection can do what they assert that process can? "

"In order for the ToE to be indicative of reality mutations are not only culled, but they have to cumulative. Not only do they have to cumulative but they have to accumulate in such a way as to add to what the earlier mutations have done. The larger the genome the higher the odds against this happening randomly. It’s pretty straight-forward."


John Paul, from Fred's propaganda factory:
" For example there isn't any genetic evidence that shows mutations culled by NS can account for mammals evolving from reptiles"

"Can you provide any evidence that shows mutations culled by NS can lead to the range of morphological & phenotypic change required? Yes or No?"

There were dozens more.




Or, you can just go HERE and then go HERE .

If they are not the same person, one is actively plagiarising the other, not only in verbiage, but in style and content.
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Old 01-28-2005, 08:36 AM   #23
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Wasn't John Paul a bulldog over at BaptistBoard?
No, he was a dickhead.
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Well, Fred stepped in and locked thread. He apparently disagreed with the insult against me "for the most part", but then made an excuse for the poster. Then he claimed I overacted, and lavished praise on the poster.

I have a feeling if the tables were switched around and had I accussed the poster of idoltary or being a "phony Christian" things would be different.

Anyone who's interested in the thread can view it here.

Oh, of course. Williams is one of the most intellectually dishonest, sleazy cretins I have ever encountered. His drooling praise for the most idiotic cretin posts while at the same time deleting and banning others for hisa "interpetations" is a case in point. Praising Willowtree for christ's sake?
I liked his rules - where he provides examples of bad titles for threads - one of them is one that HE had actually used before! And one of the milder ones, at that.

He is a scumbag, frankly, and a highly dishonest one at that. In other words, he is the typical right-wing pseudointellectual bible zombie that inhabits the internet.
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He says he is not a Christian, but I think that is just a 'witnessing' tool. He once claimed to be Muslim, but when an actual Muslim started inquiring about the Koran, he suddenly clammed up.
That was a classic at the EVC Forum. JP was frequently quoting the Bible as authoritative, but insisted he was a Muslim. But he clammed up when someone tried to talk about Islam with him. At first he ignored the posts, and then he just stopped posting. He is a lying fundy. Take it to the bank.

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Oh, of course. Williams is one of the most intellectually dishonest, sleazy cretins I have ever encountered. His drooling praise for the most idiotic cretin posts while at the same time deleting and banning others for hisa "interpetations" is a case in point. Praising Willowtree for christ's sake?
I liked his rules - where he provides examples of bad titles for threads - one of them is one that HE had actually used before! And one of the milder ones, at that.

He is a scumbag, frankly, and a highly dishonest one at that. In other words, he is the typical right-wing pseudointellectual bible zombie that inhabits the internet.
It is starting to look more like the OCW fiasco over there all the time. Fred just reopened a topic that he had closed after deleting all the responses to Willowtree's opening post. Then, someone in another thread asked what was going on with posts being deleted, and that post was deleted without comment.

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It is starting to look more like the OCW fiasco over there all the time. Fred just reopened a topic that he had closed after deleting all the responses to Willowtree's opening post. Then, someone in another thread asked what was going on with posts being deleted, and that post was deleted without comment.

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No big surprise. That is the only way Fred's drool can survive - if he censors the opposition.
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Can anyone log into Fred's forum and get the Deacon's email address for me. He is one of the moderators and he suspended me for the post found on this page:

http://evolutionfairytale.com/forum/...topic=67&st=20

My post name is Jericho.

I can't even log in to get his email. He has continued to slander me on the same site and I can't even defend my OP. I want to send him and email and confront him about it.

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Can anyone log into Fred's forum and get the Deacon's email address for me. He is one of the moderators and he suspended me for the post found on this page:

http://evolutionfairytale.com/forum/...topic=67&st=20

My post name is Jericho.

I can't even log in to get his email. He has continued to slander me on the same site and I can't even defend my OP. I want to send him and email and confront him about it.

Thanks.
You may have trouble finding someone who hasn't already been banned from there. :rolling: I tried to get it for you, but you can't get it unless you are registered and logged in. Can't help you with that. Pangloss can't either, as he has already suffered your fate. I presume that the "Deacon" is referring to you though when he wrote "He is not banned. Only suspended for a week". Let me guess. You gave him a argument that he had a bit of trouble with?

You have a taste of what the world would be like if the fundies were in charge. That's why I fight tooth and nail against them.

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Can anyone log into Fred's forum and get the Deacon's email address for me. He is one of the moderators and he suspended me for the post found on this page:

http://evolutionfairytale.com/forum/...topic=67&st=20

My post name is Jericho.

I can't even log in to get his email. He has continued to slander me on the same site and I can't even defend my OP. I want to send him and email and confront him about it.

Thanks.
Jericho,

I had someone try to get it for you, but when they clicked on "e-mail" it went to a form. "Deacon" does list his homepage, and you might find an e-mail address there:

http://www.comeuphither.com/

Hey pangloss, here is Willowtree's latest contribution:

"Evo scientists are Talibanic."

Link: http://evolutionfairytale.com/forum/...p?showtopic=76

Must have sounded better than "Al Qaedic".

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