Sven

They nowhere explicitely state this - but some quotes from R. David Pogge make their position very clear:

from
http://www.ridgenet.net/~do_while/sage/v3i5w.htm

Jason Diplock

But their arguments are against evolution - they argue against evolution full stop.

Jet Black

I read that. so in otherwords, you have nothing to back up what you said, and basically they probably are creationists (based on Sven's post) but they don't explicitly state it.

Jason Diplock

Is this all you can find? They have so many articles on their website which attack evolution using it's own arguments.

Jason Diplock

Actually you can call them what you like but that detracts nothing from their arguments. I don't think that they are creationists.

Jet Black

based on Sven's post, why would you think they are not creationists... what exactly do you think they are? They seem to be reposting alot of the standard creationist inaccuracies after all.

Jason Diplock

They are anti-evolutionists. Do you imagine that there are only two sides to an argument, ie. if they are against evolution that they necessarily support creationism?

I tell you what I'll do - I'll e-mail them with that very question and then tell you exactly what they said.

Sven

Yes. Using the same silly, outdated arguments as other creationists. So what?

And the quotes I posted make it very clear that at least R. David Pogge (their president) is at least very sympathetic to creationism. But you of course can never admit that you were wrong on a point.

Jason Diplock

The fact that they use some of the same arguments doesn't necessarily make them creationists. But you of course can never admit that you are narrow minded.

Jet Black

fair enough, but I just wonder how they think that things came to be if it wasn't by evolution or creationism. perhaps they believe in spontaneous poofing.