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10-01-2012, 11:51 AM | #61 |
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really? peer reviewed blogs? wide spread? examples?
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Perhaps I am being unclear. Lots of academics post information in their blogs that will later make its way into peer-reviewed publication hoping for criticism and suggestions.
A peer-reviewed blog is an inherently silly idea. In the same way, ALL academics publishing journal articles or scholarly books are going to go through the peer review process informally if not formally to make sure their work is as strong and defensible as possible. So my point on your blog is: "So, what?" Yeah, you may have more "academic rigor" then most forum posters, but it doesn't make you anything near as reliable as an accredited scholar. Especially if you have a habit of ignoring criticism from the dissenting views you publish. |
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Jusqu'à présent, nous sommes d'accord alors. But where I have received dissenting views I have published responses to that criticism (as is the case with Mason) or here at the forum. The real question for me at least is that I feel that there is a circumstantial case to be made for Jews always having regarded Agrippa as the messiah. The argument is implicit in the various texts of Josephus, explicit in the Yosippon as well as various other source materials. Is it as strong a case as that for Jesus being the messiah of the Jews? Yes, certainly for this is an inherently implausible argument as Jewish exegetical sources have always noted because Jesus was (a) never a king (b) certainly not a descended of David (c) had many substantive problems with even the idea that he claimed to be the messiah. It was within this context that I decided to write the book - i.e. that a better case can be made for Agrippa than Jesus.
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And I think that from henceforth you should direct your comments to the plausibility of that hypothesis. 90% of your attacks are directed against me personally. Please at least attempt an argument against the plausibility of this thesis. Otherwise you demonstrate yourself to be engaging in a sustained ad hominem attack.
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Apparently I see someone has mapped the size and location of Agrippa's fortress on the internet:
http://wikimapia.org/14440437/The-Palace-of-Agrippa-II |
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Another example of errors in Josephus apparently (even though this discovery is often presented as 'confirming' Josephus's narrative. As part of his fortification of the city of Jerusalem, Herod is said by Josephus to have built three towers incorporated into the into the city walls, one of which still survives to this day, the so-called Tower of David. The surviving tower may be the Phasael tower, named after Herod's brother. The top portion of the tower, constructed of smaller stones, was repaired by the crusaders of the 12th century and later. The lower portion displays the typical masonry style of Herod's building projects. (Josephus describes the city walls and Herod's three towers in War 5.4.1-4; 135-75.)
But recently archaeology rejects this understanding. http://jonathanturley.org/2011/11/29/42155/ |
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I am struggling to find a garbled High School French quote that will suitably encapsulate my incomprehension of the language.
The last French language film I watched featured Brigitte LaHaie, unfortunately. And another day I could have spent writing passes away... EDIT: When I started writing only the French "Then we agree" was visible. Several posts have elapsed since then. Let me state again that I'm not going to attack the "Agrippa = Messiah" idea because it's a theological question and a waste of time. Likewise Agrippa's presence or non-presence at a fictional crucifixion is also irrelevant. You got my attention by making a pretty outrageous hypothesis (that Josephus is a 2nd Century Christian forgery) that invalidates a big swathe of actual history, and then supporting it with arguments that really were ridiculous. I'm a history geek. People doing crappy history annoys me. Whatever the validity of your reading of the Clement of Alexandria quotation, the timeline you gave for the interaction between Christian Proto-Josephus and the canonical gospels is untenable. An Amazon "Real Messiah" reviewer stated that you believe Irenaeus split up an Agrippan Pan-Gospel into the four canonical ones and you stated in the previous thread that the "Josephan" material was added to Luke at this time. I'm not sure how you made your way around the Mark/Q problem, but that doesn't matter. As I pointed out in the last thread, for Irenaeus to have done what I described above, he would have to have been insane. You are telling us that the final redactor of the canonical gospels also had what would come to be accepted as the secular history of Judea at the time of the Gospels in his control to do with as he pleased... And he CREATED the Infancy Narrative contradictions! Or if nothing else he allowed them to continue to exist after carefully editing around the Gospel texts he was given, but then failed to edit the Josephus texts to cover up the problem he absolutely could not have missed. You are aware that there is an Infancy Narrative contradiction based on the chronology of Herod and his sons in Josephus, right? You really need to deal with this one Stephan. I might have been the first to point it out, but if you carry it through to publication, I won't be the last. |
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= "agreed/we agree"
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to whom is this addressed?
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