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AdamWho · 10-16-2003, 04:38 PM

Somebody sent my a link for this siteMind Reader and it has been able to pick out my card every single time.

Does anybody have a clue as to how it works?

Jesse · 10-16-2003, 04:43 PM

Anyone who hasn't seen this trick should check it out, it's fun to try to figure out how it could work on your own...but for anyone who's stumped, the answer is below...

...look carefully at the six cards they initially give you to pick from, and then the set of five cards at the end where they say your card has been removed. If you compare them, you'll see they've actually given you five completely different cards, none of which was in the original set.

Stabby- · 10-16-2003, 04:44 PM

all the cards are replaced.

The first set has King of Hearts and Spades, the next set, King of Diamonds and clubs.

Argh.. you beat me by one minute!!!

Arken · 10-16-2003, 04:45 PM

You might want to check the OTHER cards that you AREN'T supposed to memorize and compare them...

Mageth · 10-16-2003, 04:45 PM

Yup.

Try again. Write down all six cards on the first page, then select one of them.

Then go to the second page and compare the cards you wrote down to the 5 cards on the second page.

I think you'll get it.

Edited to add: That's what I get for being such a slow typer.

Madkins007 · 10-16-2003, 05:35 PM

Heh! This is why it is so easy for magicians and fakes to dupe people. You are tricked into paying attention to the wrong part of the process!

This is an OLD magic trick of a category called 'packet tricks'.

If you want to do this in 'real time', you just need two bundles of cards- one with 5-6 cards, one with one less. The real psychology is in the construction of the bundles- they need to 'feel' identical.

FoE · 10-16-2003, 07:05 PM

I wonder how many people have ponied up the $10 for the solution.

Pragmatist · 10-16-2003, 09:38 PM

What is really pitiful is the whole thing is just a simple flash thing with the exact same set of cards (if you reset). This makes it really simple to recognize what is going on. Yes, I do wonder how much they've made on people looking for the answer... and whether they feel like suckers when it is revealed.

Poor Adamwho... just remember that this sort of slight of hand has been going on for thousands of years...

AdamWho · 10-17-2003, 02:23 AM

Once I got the trick I am a little embarrassed at my gullibility

Will I Am · 10-17-2003, 02:37 AM

It's to do with "9". An old math's "trick". We use "base 10" numbers. Look for the pattern - think "nine".... You'll get it.

10-16-2003, 04:38 PM	#1
AdamWho Contributor Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 13,389	Baffled by MindReader website Somebody sent my a link for this siteMind Reader and it has been able to pick out my card every single time. Does anybody have a clue as to how it works?

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10-16-2003, 04:43 PM	#2
Jesse Moderator - Science Discussions Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Providence, RI, USA Posts: 9,908	Anyone who hasn't seen this trick should check it out, it's fun to try to figure out how it could work on your own...but for anyone who's stumped, the answer is below... ...look carefully at the six cards they initially give you to pick from, and then the set of five cards at the end where they say your card has been removed. If you compare them, you'll see they've actually given you five completely different cards, none of which was in the original set.

10-16-2003, 04:44 PM	#3
Stabby- Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: the west Posts: 161	all the cards are replaced. The first set has King of Hearts and Spades, the next set, King of Diamonds and clubs. Argh.. you beat me by one minute!!!

10-16-2003, 04:45 PM	#4
Arken Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 6,303	You might want to check the OTHER cards that you AREN'T supposed to memorize and compare them...

10-16-2003, 04:45 PM	#5
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Yup. Try again. Write down all six cards on the first page, then select one of them. Then go to the second page and compare the cards you wrote down to the 5 cards on the second page. I think you'll get it. Edited to add: That's what I get for being such a slow typer.

10-16-2003, 05:35 PM	#6
Madkins007 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Nebraska Posts: 591	Heh! This is why it is so easy for magicians and fakes to dupe people. You are tricked into paying attention to the wrong part of the process! This is an OLD magic trick of a category called 'packet tricks'. If you want to do this in 'real time', you just need two bundles of cards- one with 5-6 cards, one with one less. The real psychology is in the construction of the bundles- they need to 'feel' identical.

10-16-2003, 07:05 PM	#7
FoE Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,168	I wonder how many people have ponied up the $10 for the solution.

10-16-2003, 09:38 PM	#8
Pragmatist Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Palo Alto, California Posts: 13	What is really pitiful is the whole thing is just a simple flash thing with the exact same set of cards (if you reset). This makes it really simple to recognize what is going on. Yes, I do wonder how much they've made on people looking for the answer... and whether they feel like suckers when it is revealed. Poor Adamwho... just remember that this sort of slight of hand has been going on for thousands of years...

10-17-2003, 02:23 AM	#9
AdamWho Contributor Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 13,389	Once I got the trick I am a little embarrassed at my gullibility

10-17-2003, 02:37 AM	#10
Will I Am Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Edge. Posts: 582	It's to do with "9". An old math's "trick". We use "base 10" numbers. Look for the pattern - think "nine".... You'll get it.

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