ApostateAbe

I just now noticed that Bart Ehrman's lectures, the "Historical Jesus Series," has been on YouTube for a few months. It may be the same lecture series that he was selling for around a hundred dollars some time ago. I am in the process of converting them from video to audio (video2mp3.net) and listening to them like audio books on my long commutes to school/work.

Here is the first video, part 1 of 24:

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PhilosopherJay

Hi Apostle Abe,

Thanks for this.

I got through the first five minutes. The introduction sounded like something you hear on the crazy Christian stations with hyperbolic distortion, a lot of unsubstantiated facts mixed with facts taken out of context to paint an entirely false historical picture.

I hope the rest gets better.

Toto

It does seem to get better. Ehrman is obviously dealing with an audience that is used to the Christ of faith, and he's working hard to get them to take a few baby steps away from their religion mindset.

These videos were posted by a Philippino Muslim. It's not clear how long they will be there.

Toto

Lecture 4: the consensus of scholars is not evidence.

Doug Shaver

Yes, interesting irony there.

I've listened to the first three and have started the fourth. So far, if I just tune out the bits where he blatantly presupposes Jesus' historicity, I don't a problem with what he has to say.

Toto

Lecture 5, at the end, on oral transmission: It has been argued that in oral cultures, people have better memories, so oral stories about Jesus were accurate. However, recent social science investigations of oral based cultures show that this is not the case. The concern about accuracy is a characteristic of written culture. In oral cultures, people assume that it is permissible to modify the story for one's own purposes.

aa5874

Once Ehrman paints an "entirely false historical picture" then it will ONLY get worse.

Ehrman constantly CONTRADICTS himself.

As soon as he ADMITTED the Gospels are historically UNRELIABLE then he simply cannot use them to determine the history of an UNKNOWN character.

ALL characters and events in UNRELIABLE sources MUST FIRST be corroborated by CREDIBLE sources BEFORE any event or character is accepted.

Ehrman himself claimed history is NOT guesswork but based on sources of antiquity. Well, he has NO real credible sources of antiquity for his "history" of Jesus and will GUESS that he was from NAZARETH.

There is ZERO credible extant sources of antiquity that mentioned any character called Jesus the Messiah of Nazareth.

IT is NOT guesswork that Sources of antiquity described Jesus as the Child of a Holy Ghost, God and the Creator. See gMatthew, gLuke and gJohn.

The history of Jesus is MYTHOLOGY based on the evidence from antiquity.

aa5874

In the first video Ehrman claims the history of Jesus should NOT be assembled by guesswork but ApostateAbe a fan of Ehrman has already written the Gospel of Abe based on Guesswork.

ApostateAbe has UNWITTINGLY demonstrated that the Jesus story in the Canon could have been products of guesswork just like his.

Toto

Fashion police comments split off here.

mountainman

The Historical Jesus Series Part 22 of 24 (Death And Resurrection Of Jesus)

Thanks Apostate Abe. I trust the e-book is of a higher calibre.