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Old 07-28-2004, 12:48 PM   #1
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In the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon), a photograph of John Kerry hangs in a room dedicated to the anti-war activists who helped the Vietnamese Communists win the Vietnam War. The photograph shows Senator Kerry being greeted by the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, Comrade Do Muoi.

Jeffrey M. Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth acquired the photograph over the Memorial Day weekend as America was commemorating its military heroes. Epstein's organization, Vietnam Vets for the Truth, issued a general request last week for photographs documenting Kerry's activities on behalf of the enemy. Bob Shirley, a Vietnam Swift Boat veteran (www.pcf45.com), sent the photograph to Epstein in response to that call. Shirley recently joined over 200 other Swift Boat veterans in signing an open letter questioning Kerry's fitness to serve as Commander-in-Chief....

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Gee ... I wonder ... how did one man's protests help a nation win a war by an invading army there to overthrough a democratically elected government??

It seems we were getting our asses handed to us long before Mr. Kerry rightfully dissented about an unjust war in which he had first hand knowledge of the American attrocities, now well documented. How dare he act in such an American way and *gasp* dissent against his government (what would our forefathers think??) and not goosestep in line to the beat of the jackbooted drummers of war.



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Thousands of men served on swiftboats during the war in Viet Nam. That the right wingers have found a few hundred who don't like Kerry doesn't mean anything. Virtually all of the men who served on Kerry's boat agree that his leadership during the war was excellent.
I find it shameful that the right wingers have had to resort to all of these attacks on the man's war service. I'm no big Kerry fan, but find all of these attempts to attack his war record only show that the Republicans really have nothing else to offer in opposition. It also shows that their character has gone totally bankrupt. One group of right wing Viet Nam war vets even questioned whether or not Kerry's wounds were serious enough to warrant Purple Hearts. There is so much they could be attacking as far as the man's politics go, but as usual most of them (right wingers) don't ever bother to study real issues, so are left with these inane attacks based on nothing but speculation and inuendo.
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Good. Frankly, I'm glad we "lost"# the war, as we never should have been there in the first place.

# *cough* pulled out *cough*
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I agree that we shouldn't question Kerry's war record, except to the extent to verify his claims about it. However, all of the criticism I have heard is not about questioning his war record but rather his actions after he spent his 4 months in Viet Nam.

It is documented that Kerry made erroneous and false accusations against American servicemen regarding atrocities in Viet Nam. He repeated, without verification, gross lies about atrocities told by people who claim to have been but were never in Viet Nam. In his testimony to Congress he stated that everyone witnessed atrocities and suggested that most participated in them. That is a gross exageration and many servicemen feel it was a betrayal. Although I would never question Kerry's right to say those things, they did give aid and comfort to our enemies during war time and I think he, and those like him, contributed to our defeat in Viet Nam.

That subject is proper to criticize Kerry about.

Edited to include link to National Review article on subject here

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And with the title of the thread...is it implied that being communist is inherently a bad thing, thusly its an ad-hom against Vietnam to mock them?
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That photo looks a bit - uh - dubious to me.

I looked around for a debunking, but only found this
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From: "Joe S."
Newsgroups: alt.security.terrorism,alt.politics,alt.politics.u sa,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Kerry Honored at Communist Museum in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon)


The claim that the commies have posted a photo of Kerry in their war museum
in Hanoi in questionable. The claim has been surfaced by a well-known
anti-Kerry group. They posted a photo of what they claim to be a group of
photos in the Hanoi war museum -- one of the photos is a photo allegedly of
Kerry meeting with a North Vietnamese official in Paris in 1972 or 73.
However, a couple of sharp-eyed individuals who have seen the photo have
pointed out that all the photos in the display have identical frames -- the
"Kerry" photo is in a different type frame and the wall behind the Kerry
photo appears different from the wall behind the other photos.

Can you say "Photoshop forgery?"

Remember the famous photo of Kerry sitting next to Jane Fonda, waiting to
make a speech? Turns out the photo was a fake.

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Does anybody know who those Asian men are? Are they communists to begin with?
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I agree that we shouldn't question Kerry's war record, except to the extent to verify his claims about it. However, all of the criticism I have heard is not about questioning his war record but rather his actions after he spent his 4 months in Viet Nam.

It is documented that Kerry made erroneous and false accusations against American servicemen regarding atrocities in Viet Nam. He repeated, without verification, gross lies about atrocities told by people who claim to have been but were never in Viet Nam. In his testimony to Congress he stated that everyone witnessed atrocities and suggested that most participated in them. That is a gross exageration and many servicemen feel it was a betrayal. Although I would never question Kerry's right to say those things, they did give aid and comfort to our enemies during war time and I think he, and those like him, contributed to our defeat in Viet Nam.

That subject is proper to criticize Kerry about.

Edited to include link to National Review article on subject here

Regards,

Finch
Yeah everything he did as an anti war protester is fair game, and if he wants to use his war record it will be scrutenized as well, but this is the kind of bullshit I'm talking about, and RP's so called 200 swift boaters against Kerry. They don't know shit.
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