khalimirov

Sure, why?

GenesisNemesis

Then why can't the Cosmos just have developed, with no divine intervention? I see no problems with that.

khalimirov

Sure, I consider the earth part of the cosmos. I think the problem here is in the rhetoric: "God created hurricane Katrina and sent it to New Orleans." It's like you are imagining God sitting on a throne looking down on earth thinking "hmm, what shall I do next. You know what, I really don't like those people down there in New Orleans. What shall I do about it? Hmmm, I know what, I'll wave my magic wand and create one of those Hurricanes." That's not really how I picture God's involvement. When I throw my pen in the air(....wait a minute, I've got to do the demonstration for my own amusement....) God doesn't look down and see me throwing a pen and say "okay, let me figure this one out: as soon as the pen reaches that specific point in the air I'll wave my magic wand and push the pen back down toward earth." Of course this kind of rhetoric is fun, but I think God's involvement is more complicated. Heck, I even accept evolution. I guess I just try to look at the big picture and assume it is good. You could just call it my positive way of looking at the world. Most of it seems to happen completely naturally. Where and how does God intervene? I really wouldn't know. Perhaps he doesn't, perhaps there isn't even a God. I cannot prove it one way or another (like most athesits seem to require). I just have a theistic way of looking at things, a presupposition if you will. However, I respect subjective religious experiences of God doing this or that. Religion is after all a subjective (and community) thing and I see the value of it.

khalimirov

Nor do I, that's a perfectly valid presupposition.

GenesisNemesis

So... you would consider yourself a Christian Deist? Just wondering.

Gwen

Everybody suffers. Everybody dies.
Surely that wasn't the only possible way to set up this "awesome cosmos"?

khalimirov

Not really. I'm probably more or less agnostic concerning God's involvement in the world. I'm not sure what he does if he does intervene.

khalimirov

I really wouldn't know how one goes about setting up a cosmos. Seems a bit complicated to me I think the circle of life, evolution and all that is pretty awesome. It's a subjective judgement, I know.

aa5874

I think he is awesomely awful, as described.

aguy2

Would the "something else" include "mission focused"?
aguy2(amen)