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Old 12-07-2005, 01:04 AM   #101
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But she went and sinned more so Jesus cast her into hell.
This is a popular interpretation, but in the actual passage, there is no threat. "Go and sin no more" is not followed by any kind of "or else".
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:59 AM   #102
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This is a popular interpretation, but in the actual passage, there is no threat. "Go and sin no more" is not followed by any kind of "or else".
What are you babbling about? I said nothing about the passage. I was continuing the parable. I did not even know that this was a popular interpretation. I was basing my addition to the parable on the character of Jesus presented in the gospels.

I could find where he threatened if you want but I guess they were just hyperbole. He had a way with language that Jesus.
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Funny how liberal churches do both, but fundamentalist churches appear to do neither.
So there are no Baptist charities. Jimmy Carter is a figment of our imagination. Mormons don’t really have a sense of community? The millions that Seventh day Adventist raise every year for charity is really to fund anti-gay programs? The huge commitment that SDA make on church state separation issues is a big lie. Didn’t Jesus say something about self-righteousness?

Stick to your guns Bible John. You have the honesty to say what the text actually says.
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So there are no Baptist charities.
Notice the word: "Appear." Also not all Baptist churches are fundamentalists.

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Mormons don’t really have a sense of community?
I didn't know Mormons were fundamentalist Christians.

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Didn’t Jesus say something about self-righteousness?
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You have the honesty to say what the text actually says.
Does he really? He's ignored a lot of parts.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:52 AM   #105
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Notice the word: "Appear." Also not all Baptist churches are fundamentalists.
Liberals appear to be washy-washy and make up their doctrines as convenient. Notice the word appear.

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I didn't know Mormons were fundamentalist Christians.
You are right. Fundamentalists are the ones who disagree with your view of Christianity.

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Feel free to quote it.
I tell you, the tax collector went down to his house justified
rather than the Pharisee:
for every one that exalts himself shall be brought low;
and he that humbles himself shall be exalted.

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Does he really? He's ignored a lot of parts.
Liberals ignore more.
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And my piss arc is longer and higher than yours.

Kisses!
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Bible John would you care to explain this (taken from your website, regarding free will):
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For those that do hold the Calvin view view, I ask them this question. Why would God choose to send over 90% of his creation to hell, while only choosing to redeem less than 25% of it?
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1. Is there any known poll in which a fair amont of random dead people have been inquired regarding their habitat?
2. Do you by "less than 25%" really mean "less then 10%" or are you refering to the damned, not the entire creation? Can 'not condemned' people be redeemed (maybe from original sin). I'm really not that familiar with religious semantics.
3. How long is an average hell-sentence for those who eventually gets redeemed (if that was what you meant) in earth years?

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Liberals appear to be washy-washy and make up their doctrines as convenient. Notice the word appear.
Well, lots of things look bad in strawman.

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Liberals ignore more.
I don't think so. I have never seen a liberal ignore any part of the Bible. I've seen them interpret a passage with something other than the most literal interpretation, or consider the social context of a parable, but I haven't seen them ignore it.
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I don't think so. I have never seen a liberal ignore any part of the Bible. I've seen them interpret a passage with something other than the most literal interpretation, or consider the social context of a parable, but I haven't seen them ignore it.
The fundamentalist do the same seebs. Do you see them stoning people? You just think your interpretations are better. So what? So do they.

Most liberals critique on fundamentalist that I have seen are attacking a strawman. Nobody takes the bible literally.
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Bible John would you care to explain this (taken from your website, regarding free will):
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For those that do hold the Calvin view view, I ask them this question. Why would God choose to send over 90% of his creation to hell, while only choosing to redeem less than 25% of it?
"90% of this game is half mental." (Yogi Berra)

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