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By Lester L. Grabbe 364 day year mentioned in association with Aramaic Levy. Therapeutae mentioned in the next section on Job. FAIL: Nothing to do with Philo's VC. Calendrical Variations in Second Temple Judaism: New Perspectives on the ... By Stéphane Saulnier "The year expounded in Philo's treatment of the therapeuate is REMINISCENT of the 364 day year". REMINISCENT: It's a wish. The People of the Dead Sea Scrolls By Florentino García Martínez, Julio C. Trebolle Barrera 364 day calendar and therapeutae are in different footnotes. FAIL: Nothing to do with Philo's VC. Is a duplicate of the first link. FAIL: Nothing to do with Philo's VC. Jesus --- By Alvar Ellegard The calendar is mentioned in one section, the therapeutae the next section. FAIL: Nothing to do with Philo's VC. Head of All Years: Astronomy and Calendars at Qumran in Their Ancient Context By Jonathan Ben-Dov Mentions pentacontad reckoning finding support in Philo's VC but not the 364 day year. FAIL. Says "according to Philo, the Therapeutae counted time in sevens." FAIL. Quote:
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The links you provide are all only assumptions built on information about other Jewish groups. + There is no direct evidence that the Theraputae followed the practices of these other groups. = FAIL You still have failed to provide a citation from Philo, or from anyone else, that proves the Theraputae used a 364 day calendar. = FAIL. |
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Like some others here, all you do is reinforce the fact that you know nothing and you aren't interested in getting past the problem. You formed a lunatic notion that you have adhered to for years while ignoring anything that is scholarly, preferring to use Wikipedia and other internet gems including old tired books that are a century out of date. You aren't even getting onto the starting blocks, so you aren't in the race. Scholarship is about learning from mistakes, your own and those of the past, in order to improve knowledge. It's not about blundering at the outset and sticking to it for the rest of your life, an albatross around your neck. And do you think you've said anything in the years I've had you on ignore that I really needed to read? mountainman, you have had years to grow up and learn about the subject you have been dealing with for so long. Instead of learning anything you have chosen merely to defend an indefensible position that has already been falsified. Still you cling to your error as though it defines you. You are not merely the vehicle for your hobby horse. If you don't let go of it, you will become like one of those angry old men that inhabit the internet being nasty to whoever disagrees with their presuppositions, because that is all the life that is left. Scholarship is about the investigation, not the conclusion, the road, not the destination. You've started off with a destination and got no closer to it in several years. It's like you know that there's gold in those mountains and if you keep looking you'll eventually find it, but there probably is no gold and you've become a crabby antisocial bearded cantankerous prospector keeping watch over your mountains with nothing to show for it. It's been time to let go for quite a while. |
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Just a thought, Stephan: do you think you can relate any Sadducee material in the rabbinic literature securely to the first century? Isn't it all house of Hillel and house of Shammai, then Johanan ben-Zakai et al.? How did the Sadducees get into the gospels?
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This link goes to the google book version of Jewish Women Philosophers of First-Century Alexandria: Philo's 'Therapeutae' Reconsidered (or via: amazon.co.uk) By Joan E. Taylor It is directly on point. It explains how the Therapeutae's 7 day or 72 cycle fits well with a 364 day calendar. I will not try to reproduce the argument here, as it is complex. |
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In addition to the documentation, there is the fact that he is not given the title “rabbi” in reliable mss. of Tannaitic texts. There is evidence in the Tannaitic texts that the process of reconciliation within Pharisaism, and then between Pharisaism and other sects, finishing with an amalgam now called Rabbinic Judaism, started in the time of Yohanan ben Zakkai.
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