Theophage

I just don't understand people who drive their cars to their air-conditioned homes and type on their computers with their broadband internet connections about how much they hate science.

The Dollar

I don't hate science. Placing a subjective emotional state into what is meant to be a objective is human nature I suppose? H20 may eventually be rendered redundant if a more accurate description becomes available to the human mind. It is easy to give facts a quasi-religious and almost God like status. But old facts fail before better descriptions of reality if they become available. I'm saying science destroys itself by bringing too many flawed diamands to the surface too quickly which eventually destroys those who utilise the scientific method. Could explain why the skies are silent?

The scientific method needs a operator, a species or a intelligence if you will, to utilise it. The scientific method is a recipe and it needs a cook. The cook makes his pies with ingredients he can never understand but merely say they exist like facts. The pies are not ingredients and the ingredients may not be what they seem. The ingredients can and must be always beyond his grasp because they are infinite in number with the scientific method. Low probability theories are casually ignored however with enough scientific progress one is bound to turn up - a paradigm shift. That is mathematics. In the meantime the cook makes his pies but he knows nothing of their ingredients - he only knows of his pies, they taste equally nice whether bad or good for the digestion. Eventually a pie will prove lethal for the cook and the recipe is no longer utilised. The scientific method will progress until it finds a faulty theory with the potential to destroy the utiliser....then it must be abandoned or it will stop. Almost like a booby-trap in the fabric of reality itself.....

hasselhoff

Could you provide some kind of concrete example? Because I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

uberhobo

That is a terrible analogy for how science works. I'm clueless whether you want the ingredients or the pies to be scientific theories. And you left out the predictive element of scientific theories. We don't just blindly throw stuff together and see what comes out. That's not science. That's playing in mud.

How about you express your ideas without resorting to tenuous analogies? We're big kids here. We can take it.

Antiplastic

QFT.

Oxymoron

I have a hammer. I can hit a nail with it, or I can can hit my thumb with it. One of those is useful, one isn't - but the intrinsic worthiness is little to do with the tool.

The Dollar

Is it a glass hammer?

Oxymoron

Yes. When I hit my thumb, I feel pane.

Theophage

Sorry, corrected that for you:

_Naturalist_

I disagree. It makes sense that a theory must be falsifiable... which isn't the same thing as being false.