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ravenscape · 04-09-2007, 11:31 AM

Welcome to the IIDB/Christian Forums thread on IIDB.

As many of you are already aware, this thread has developed what some might call "a life of its own" here, and has been continuing for quite some time. This most recent version of the thread was split from here.

As some of your may be aware, there are are other forums here at IIDB. We have a lot of interesting conversations around here, and you might think about joining in. Unlike CF, theists are not restricted in where they may post, although please note that the secular community forums restrict certain kinds of content.

Quickly, let's review the most pertinent rules to this thread:

1. The rules here at IIDB prohibit insulting, flaming or attacking IIDB members. For a list of people that are registered both here and at Christian Forums, please see the members list at:

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=149006

If you are not on the list and would like to be, or would like to update or correct your information please PM Spherical Timedirectly. Only people that the moderators of IIDB are aware are members are protected under this policy, but self-banned members at IIDB are still protected here, as per administrator ruling.

2. PMs (Private Messages) may be posted only with the permission of the sender. This includes messages posted to private and staff forums, such as the Staff Appeals forum at CF, and messages sent in an official capacity. While it would be churlish for a staff member of any site to refuse such permission under most circumstances, if they do, we expect that to be respected.

The previous threads bear many different names, and can be found through the following links:
IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LVIII (Who Watches the Watchers)
IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LXII (Explode With Delight!)IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LXI (The Crazy Eddie Point)
IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LX (Damn Right She'll Rise Again)
IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LIX (Oh, Stop Giggling.)
IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LVIII (The Teen Heartthrob Vatican)

The Master List of past CF/IIDB Threads may be found here.

Special thanks to Shannon for creating the old users list, and thanks to everyone here for respecting the other people that post here, and keeping this little community thread going.

~E~ Moderators Team

04-09-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BelindaP

I think we should honor Bevlina somehow with the next thread title. It's not often that one of our own passes on.

I would suggest something about gumnuts! After looking it up, the australian children's books about Snugglepot and Cuddlepie might have something appropriate (I always chuckled at her avatar sig)

ravenscape · 04-09-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigToe

do you find it funny for the same reasons i do?

I don't know if it's the same reason. I consider both kib and sidhe to be internets friends. Their writing styles are distinctive and not at all similar IMO. I know that they have posted from the same IP on another website, once. I also know they were both not at home when they posted. It cracked me up that they were probably at a library or other public computer network in Atlanta, Georgia within a couple hours of each other.

The idea of a Calvinist impersonating a Thelemite, or vice versa absolutely cracks me up, though.

Shame they didn't get a chance to say hello.

Loki · 04-09-2007, 04:48 PM

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaa!

praying · 04-09-2007, 04:56 PM

subscribing

BigToe · 04-09-2007, 05:04 PM

bunny got bigger when i was out of town!

Lanakila · 04-09-2007, 05:16 PM

A coworker of mine just had a baby and I took over dinner. The baby is a cutie.

TracerBullet · 04-09-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TracerBullet

I see that Suzzybee is working overtime in Ethics and Morality shutting down threads that challenge CF’s pro-hate stance.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5063...-childish.html
closed for review because there was reasonable discursion about how language can be used to offend members of a minority

http://www.christianforums.com/t5054...hate-gays.html
it took the mods long enough to get this shut down…KarateCowboy must be exhausted form all the flaming he is doing. Of course his bigoted attacks will go un-addressed by the mods…he is after all one of the mouthpieces for the pro-bigot segment of CF.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5064...-adoption.html
closed after just three posts…of course none of them falsely accused gays and lesbians of being pedophiles or compared homosexuals to mass murders…so of course it had to be stopped.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5044389
Closed for the obvious reason…the supporters of discrimination have managed to loose the argument. How embarrassing. If people actually read the arguments against discrimination they might start questioning that discrimination and we can’t have people not agreeing with the pro-discrimination stance of CF now can we?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzybeezy

YAWN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Liz

I'm pretty sure you think the posters discussing this are mischaracterizing your reasons for closing these threads. I, personally, would like to understand your POV. Is there any explanation at all you can give us that would not violate anyone's privacy?

We have our biases and our blind spots. A lot of us would really, really like to be able to discuss some of these topics without violating the rules, but we're having difficulty extrapolating how to do that. Can you help us fill in our blind spots? What is wrong, or potentially wrong, with these threads?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzybeezy

I will answer you. Since CF has been down repeatedly over the past few days, we have an overwhelming backlog of reports. On threads where we have multiple reports - I've closed the threads till they can be processed. This helps keep the thread from further spiraling downhill and gives us a chance to get caught up.

While you've noted the threads closed - you fail to mention I've already completed three complete thread clean ups today (make that four, just did another one) and processed nearly 20 reports.

So sometimes I need to put things on hold until the reports and threads can be discussed with the rest of the team. It has nothing to do with any "bias" on the threads contents - please!

well its been a week…lets see how busy Suzybeezy has been shall we?

Because after all…the reason these threads were closed had NOTHING to do with Christian forums pro-hate policy towards gays and lesbians. The thread closings were only about “processing” reports…right?

http://www.christianforums.com/t5063...-childish.html
golly…this entire thread…with its total of three posts discussing how language can be used in an offensive manner…seems to have disappeared from the planet.
The “official reason…why the three posters were “flaming”
http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showpost.php...&postcount=512
which was pretty good considering there was no actual flaming going on.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5054...hate-gays.html the thread is completely gone. Gee…that seems strange. After all suzybeezy assured us all it had nothing to do with the content or CF moderator bias…yet somehow it went *poof*

http://www.christianforums.com/t5064...-adoption.html also went poof. Of course I am sure it was some computer glitch and not the fact that many posters defied the pro-hate stance taken by the moderators of CF and challenged the many false claims made by pro-hate Christians there…Yes, I am sure…yes indeed

http://www.christianforums.com/t5044389 Thread closed permanently…what a surprise.

Nope…absolutely NOTHING to do with “bias” at all at CF. nope nope nope

TracerBullet · 04-09-2007, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ResidentMumbai

Racist??? What the......FUCK?? I've never seen you say anything remotely racist, but they seem to enjoy slapping people with that label often, and the people who get slapped with it tend to be the among most open-minded of the masses. And yeah, when KarateVillagePerson reported four of my posts in the same thread, that was a "grace."

But racism? Shit. They really are running out of excuses to get rid of us.

Point of order I never called any poster in CF a racists. I often challenged individuals justifying anti-gay hatred and discrimination to tell me just how their position differs from that of a racists. I never got an answer to that challenge other than: “God loves me and therefore God hates all the same people I do. And if you were a REAL Christian you would hate the people I tell you to hate.”

Dorothy · 04-09-2007, 05:45 PM

I think I'm getting a cold.

04-09-2007, 11:31 AM	#1
ravenscape Contributor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: gone gone gone Posts: 12,686	IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LXIV (Peace for the Real One) Welcome to the IIDB/Christian Forums thread on IIDB. As many of you are already aware, this thread has developed what some might call "a life of its own" here, and has been continuing for quite some time. This most recent version of the thread was split from here. As some of your may be aware, there are are other forums here at IIDB. We have a lot of interesting conversations around here, and you might think about joining in. Unlike CF, theists are not restricted in where they may post, although please note that the secular community forums restrict certain kinds of content. Quickly, let's review the most pertinent rules to this thread: 1. The rules here at IIDB prohibit insulting, flaming or attacking IIDB members. For a list of people that are registered both here and at Christian Forums, please see the members list at: http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=149006 If you are not on the list and would like to be, or would like to update or correct your information please PM Spherical Timedirectly. Only people that the moderators of IIDB are aware are members are protected under this policy, but self-banned members at IIDB are still protected here, as per administrator ruling. 2. PMs (Private Messages) may be posted only with the permission of the sender. This includes messages posted to private and staff forums, such as the Staff Appeals forum at CF, and messages sent in an official capacity. While it would be churlish for a staff member of any site to refuse such permission under most circumstances, if they do, we expect that to be respected. The previous threads bear many different names, and can be found through the following links: IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LVIII (Who Watches the Watchers) IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LXII (Explode With Delight!)IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LXI (The Crazy Eddie Point) IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LX (Damn Right She'll Rise Again) IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LIX (Oh, Stop Giggling.) IIDB/Christian Forums Thread Continuation LVIII (The Teen Heartthrob Vatican) The Master List of past CF/IIDB Threads may be found here. Special thanks to Shannon for creating the old users list, and thanks to everyone here for respecting the other people that post here, and keeping this little community thread going. ~E~ Moderators Team

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