spanner365

How does that work exactlty? The rocks are given a certain age and so the paintings on the rocks are that age? Perhaps this will get the moderators
attention.

< CX: Please use the quote feature (as I did above) when quoting others. Thanks.>

Mageth

What's all this about the moderators?

They date the paintings, not the rocks, of course. Paintings are...painted...using paint of some sort. From that time, at least some of the paint was organic. Organic materials can be dated using carbon dating.

budgie

Check the garbage piles. Some early civilizations relied on the crop of the season, as it were, and throwing away the trash from these meals in the same area results in formations called middens. But I don't think these were the layers you were thinking about. (Look! I found a BigMac wrapper from 5000 bc Sumeria! See the Golden Calf Arches?!)

heh.

-jim

CX

Just out of curiousity, why are you concerned at all about moderator attention? We are only here to facilitate discussion and address violations of posting policy.

spanner365

Perhaps I haven't been reading the posts correctly but there was a hell of a lot of mederator input before there was any discussion. I was quickly told that there were civilizations that were 7500 years old but when I asked how they knew this there was no word. Do you even know if there are civilizations that had no form of writing? Why did man sit on his ass for a million years without inventing writing. Surely people would have congregated together at some point and delved into math and writing.

funinspace

Well maybe you are serious, but your quotes sound allot like group think. If you want an absolute proof, then stick to something clean and simple like mathematics. The evidence is strong, and people have spent decades improving archeological techniques. The Babylonians built on top of Akadian sites; the Akadian's built on top of the Sumerian sites. All during this time they had writing. All during this time they used pottery. They can use these to construct models for layering of sites where humans have lived for centuries. This can be used to give approximations of time spans for the layers. Ur, Jericho, and Huyuk can all be looked at this way. Here's a web site that talks more about the Sumerian beginnings:
http://www.ragz-international.com/firsttowns.htm

I'm not going to cut and paste hug sections just to make it look important. It's still just a summary. If you are serious, I strongly recommend books over web sites. There is no way to properly cover outside of something the size of a book.

I'll turn the question around: Why do you think it's only 6000 years old? Or do you? What proof do you have if so?

Gooch's dad

spanner365, we moderators are just your fellow participants in this message board. The only exception is when we're actively moderating a thread, in which case we generally post in red font. You really should assume that we're just like any other poster, unless it's obvious that we're moderating. Like me, right now--I'm just a fellow participant in this thread.

Cool, that you're asking these questions and looking for clear answers. Have you read through any of the links we've provided?

CX

If I'm reading the thread correctly you were given several references to information on the subject. The onus is then upon you to seek out those references and verify.

spanner365

No No No. Thats not what happened at all. I posted something and I immediatelly got for or five posts as to why it was false from the moderators. I didn't get the same response when I asked a question at all. You don't even know why the civilizations are older than 5000 years. At least i haven't seen any evidence of it. The only facts that I could obtain from the other user (which I did check) was that they make assumptions on the age of the civilizations underneath.

funinspace

Our moderators are very vigorous :wave: , and get to play and moderate at the same time. It was just happenstance that the first responses were from moderators, I would assume.