Scorpion

Yes, that was pretty much my point. Chances are that with blindwatchmaker's understanding of what is reasonable discussion die-hard apologists may find it difficult to be able to say anything at all without stepping beyond the given limits...

...but going further about this will only serve to derail this discussion, so I'll just return to shadows and keep on lurking, so never mind me

-S-

blindwatchmaker

Thank you all for your comments so far.

Dargo, you rock!:notworthy

Magus is notable for his absence.

Happy New Year everyone.

BW

Sona

I don't understand how God could write something that wasn't perfect enough to be simple, clear and relieve any doubt in your mind.

I guess its just another test of faith..

Doctor X

Sona:

Yes, it IS . . . and YOU have been found WANTING!!! To Save YOUR Soul you must be willing to PLANT A SEED OF FAITH for your REDEMPTION by sending me seventeen easy payments of $39.95. . . .

. . . welcome to the forums . . . Directs Seed to hand a glass of Moet. . . .

Insufficientlysightedindividualwhofashionsquaintti mepieces:

It takes about four days for him to forget all of the evidence that challenges his world view.

If one would consider this a less-than-charitable estimation of his worth--a veritable floccinaucinihilipilification of his frustrated protestations--know that nothing has been offered new from him and, further, that previous sincere offers of information that he could then debate rather than cast aside in an avalance of fallacy have been . . . well . . . cast aside in an avalance of fallacy.

Happy New Year as well--Seed passes a glass of Moet. . . .

--J.D.

Amaleq13

You are the quintessential sequipedalian!:notworthy



Remind me never to play Scrabble with you for money.

Magus55

People always make things more confusing and harder than they need to be. And there also is some confusion and ambiguity from the translation. Its not easy to convert ancient Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic into perfect English.

Evolutionist

so you mean when the bible says something absurd and laughable- it's merely a translation error?

well- now it all makes sense...

variant 13

Meaning that the whole of the bible is open to interpretation.

Anyway what was written in aramaic? Thought that was just the language they spoke and that it was all written in greek.

blindwatchmaker

OK Now I get it.

When the Bible says in Genesis 2 that man was created from the dust of the ground when there were no plants even though God had created all the plants and trees in the previous chapter (and man too for that matter) we can explain this by saying either:

a) The translation accounts for this logical impossibility or

b)You mustn't take everything in the Bible literally. Some things are just metaphors.

What is so great about this is that we can then apply these two standards to any verse in the Bible.

So for instance, when God says that no man shall lie with another man as with a woman, he isn't saying that homosexuality is a sin.

To conclude that would be to forget our special rules.

Lets apply our new found interpretation techniques and see what we get.

a) Possibly something has been lost in the translation from ancient greek.
What he really meant by "no man shall lie with another man as with a woman," is "Long live gay rights! Same sex marriages all the way! What a beautiful thing to see two men so in love!"

b)You mustn't take everything in the Bible literally. Some things are just metaphors. "No man shall lie with another man as with a woman," is really just a metaphor. He doesn't really mean that obviously. What this really means is "Long live gay rights! Same sex marriages all the way! What a beautiful thing to see two men so in love!"


I'm so pleased to have an understanding of God's holy word now. I'm just off to explain this new insight to all my Christian friends.

Toto

It's not so new.