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See how carefully you have to compartmentalize what is actually the most complicated scenario of all - and invent false premises that are easily negated (eg the non-armed are not written of by Josephus) So I guess now you'll have to invent yet one more complicating factor in the pretense of "parsimony". It is only parsimonious if you get to restrict attention to the only things the theory can explain. The rest - why then we have to patch together an ever-growing quilt of "just so" stories. Quote:
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The parsimonious explanation is that the HB is being quote-mined in a pretty sloppy fashion. The requirement for Joseph to move out of Nazareth for a census is not historically motivated because it is poppycock. Likewise escaping to Egypt with the slaughter of the innocents. But the explanation that a story needed to be weaved to include naza-something, Bethlehem birth, and "coming out of Egypt" fits exactly. You have in this manner eliminated numerous ficticious personages and events that need be explained away with "just so" stories. |
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Heh. That's my boy! Isn't he just darling? Thanks for the correction on Pilate. The Procurator at the time I guess would be Florus. |
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We are discussing MJ/HJ, my point is that the Jesus Christ described in the NT appears to be fictitious. There are no prophecies in the OT for Jesus Christ, the NT falsely shows prophecies, his birth cannot be confirmed, either Matthew or Luke gives false information about his birth. His miraculous healings and raising people from the dead are improbable and could not have been seen by anyone. No-one saw a dead person come to life by Jesus Christ. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Saulus/Paulus' epistles contain false information regarding Jesus Christ. There are contradictory information about his death. Jesus Christ fits the character of fiction. |
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